Hey guys, it's the offseason and I'm bored. So I was wondering, looking back in hindsight, who would you now have taken with the fourth overall pick in the 2006 NFL draft? Would you stay with DBrick, or go in a different direction. And I know we needed to address our left tackle spot, but the point of this thread is who was the best overall player to take at four looking back in hindsight. For me, I think I would now take Jay Cutler. I also like Haloti Ngata in Baltimore. But I think Cutler has played pretty well for a young quarterback, and has all the intangibles to develop into a good quarterback. 63.6 completion percentage, and almost 3,500 yards for a second year quarterback, I think I would've gone in this direction. What do you guys think?
Even though I knew the D'Brick pick was the smartest at the time, Cutler or Ngata... Cutler was the guy I was praying we'd draft...then draft Justice in the second. I thought he was the best QB prospect since Palmer. Ngata...I mean if you saw him at Oregon you knew he was nasty...but the guy is a freak of nature out there. He can play any spot on the DL in the 3-4, they stood him up and blitzed him, dropped him back into coverage, lined him up at LBer...its like WTF can't he do?
Well the guy I really wanted at #4 was A.J. Hawk, and honestly, that wouldnt be a bad guy to have on our LB corps...
It's easy to look back now, but I still think the Jets made the correct pick. Cutler and Ngata we would of probable traded down for to get. The guy that the Jets were looking at Leinart has been a bust so far so it really doesn't look that bad.
It's a coin toss between nabbing Brick and trading down a few and nabbing Ngata. I still think Brick was absolutely the right pick at the time, and I still think he has elite potential.
I agree with everything in this post. I mean, I remember Mike Mayock saying that DBrick was the safest pick in the draft. But Cutler has turned out to be a good looking young quarterback, and I definitely can't argue with you about Ngata, he is damn nasty. The guy is listed at 335 pounds, and does all the stuff you mentioned. He's just a freak. But in the end quarterback is the most important position on the field.
I was just talkin about this with some one I agree I'd like Nagata he would be sweet. At the same time I would have loved A.J hawk and I would have stayed with Mangold in the first though as well
At the time I was saying D'Brick (with Leinart as a posibility if he was available)...all things considered it was the pick to make, so I can't claim otherwise. I wouldn't call it a BAD pick, but hopefully he develops into a #4 quality player (unlike the last time they gave the farm to draft a guy at #4
And when Cutler was beheaded playing behind the Jets line minus Ferguson (with Adrian Jones at Left tackle maybe?) where would the franchise have been? There was just no other person who made sense on the 4 pick. Taking Leinart or Cutler would just have been setting the young guy up to fail. And Chad would have collapsed a year earlier with the line in total disarray. I don't like Ferguson's progress to date, but that just means the Jets may have busted out on the right pick.
I agree... you think our line is horrible now? It'd be even more horrible without D'Brick or Mangold. Those were two excellent picks. This is a team in transition, and it needs more time.
Ngata, no doubt One of the biggest mistakes Mangini has made is minimizing the need to aggressively go after true nose-tackles if you want a successful 3-4. He should have realized that elite NT prospects do not come about frequently and you have to jump on them when you have a chance. Good left tackles are a lot easier to get later.
For all the people who wanted to trade down: there was no trade down available. Al Davis made noises about wanting the 3 or 4 pick but he didn't back that up with offers and the person he was supposedly hunting with the pick, Matt Leinart, was still there after he picked on the 7. Nobody else wanted to move up badly enough to even become the subject of unfounded rumors. The only buzz about draft day trades was about the Raiders maybe wanting to move up and it just didn't happen.
Ferguson has been okay, Cutler is a franchise QB. He would have sat year 1 and we could have used our second on a Tackle if we don't take Clemens. The Giants took Eli with an absolute dissaster of an OL and fixed it. You can fix an OL getting a top quality QB is a once every 2 decade proposition. When the Jets go 7 and 9 with Chad as the starter next year get back to me.
Trade down from # 4 for Ngata, take Mangold at # 29, trade up from round two for Cromartie. We could have filled the tackle spot with Jonas Jennings in free agency.
and while your back there in time grab me the winning lottery ticket. D'brick hasnt workerd out so well to date but thats not to say he hasnt shown flashes. He IS an above average pass blocker although a below average run blocker. Ill give him 2 more years till i give up on him. The rest of the draft imo was a pretty good one. Leon in the 4th Mangold at the end of the first.
Packaged our number 2 for 2007 and swapped places with the Texans for supermario. I think they would have bitten at the time, they were desperate to get off the Bush trip. I think they called it right.
