We wouldn't take Gholston over DMAC. That would be insane. The only option we could make is to either take Dmac, or trade down. Only reasonable scenario. If we trade down, obviously that team will be in desperate need to aquire DMac. So the Patriots wont see the light of day with DMac, unless they trade up ahead of us to aquire him. Which is highly unlikely, and would be the biggest jaw dropper of the draft. I just dont see it, but we've all seen crazier things..
I don't want the Jets to draft McFadden, we have other needs, but if McFadden falls to the Pats that opens up the possibility for Dallas to trade their first two picks to him. Seeing the Pats with two first rounders would be worse to me then the Pats simply taking him.
No way you go with McFadden - OT or outside LB/DE is the choice. Trade down if you know one of your top choices will be there. Which teams below the Jets need a RB??
that's like saying if we take DMC and give the Pats Gholston, he'll have 10 sacks against us and knock out our starting and backup QB's.
i'd much rather see gholston on the pats than mcfadden. McFadden has superstar potential and the fact that he is a RB, and has the potential to touch the ball every down on offense makes him much more of an impact player than gholston.
tallest running back in the draft as well as one of the fastest 3. Has incredible breakaway speed. Has good patience and vision. Hits the hole then bursts out of it before anybody knows what's going on. The guy has unbelievable breakaway speed and is a complete home run hitter. Something the jets don't have. Yes he isn't much of a bruiser at all, but he has the potential to be such an impact player that we can't let him pass by us and especially, can't let the pats get him.
That's a great strategy!! The Jets should plan their draft not by what's best to improve the Jets, but to keep some player away from the Pats. Brilliant! Should the Jets draft linebackers also so the Pats can't replenish their LB corps??? And should the Jets draft CBs too, because we don't want the Pats to be able to replace Samuel. The Jets should worry about their own board and their own team and their own needs and that's it.
but it's not like by taking mcfadden we're just taking someone so the pats wont get him. He's also the best player available IMO, at #6. Both Gholston and McFadden would greatly help the jets. But we should slightly take into consideration the fact that the pats are right behind the jets and that they can greatly affect who the patriots are left to draft.
This is a decision that's getting harder for me. I've always said that if McFadden is there at #6, you trade down. The emotions on this are across the board, as evidenced by the differing opinions here. Now... here's what's really going to happen if you're Tannenbaum and McFadden is there at #6, and it's really quite simple: 1) You're going to keep your options open and I mean, you're going to keep them open right down to the final minutes of the 12 minutes remaining on the clock at the #6 pick. You go into the draft having done your homework, but you don't know what will develop until it does, so you almost certainly don't go in with any pre-conceived scenarios or definite decisions on what you're going to do. 2) If McFadden is there, the phone will be ringing off the hook with offers, right from Minute One. If the bidding teams aren't talking at least two 1st Rounders, you don't waste your time. I'd think you're be looking for at least two mid 1st Round positions or possibly two mid-to-lower 1st Rounders and a 3rd or early 4th. A lot also depends on who has been taken and what looks promising. 3) Within minutes, you need to determine the value you might receive. You also need to compare what our needs are with what else we could acquire with the two 1st Rounders we'd receive (put the 3rd or 4th on the back burner for now). 4) If you're not happy with the trades offered, you pull the tigger on McFadden. But if some other team gets embroiled in the bidding war and HAS to have McFadden, then you do the deal. It's not like we HAVE to have McFadden. We don't, at least not this year, so if McFadden is available at #6, we'd be in a very, very good position.
I don't think the phone will be ringing off the hook. This is a running back. Running back is the easiest position to fill in the NFL. Most teams do not want to spend high first round money on such a fungible player.
Rb's are a dime a dozen ... Maybe we should take another O-lineman in the Top 6. If we do, I will be unhappy, complain alot, comment on what a joke this team is and then i will forget about it and get on with my life...a true Jets fan.
No. But the Jets should take an impact defensive front 7 player. That might make some sense considering the pass rush is anemic and teams run on the Jets like crap through a goose. Can McFadden tackle or rush the passer????
How do you know we don't already have playmakers if they aren't given enough time to throw the ball, run their routes, find an open hole, etc.? We need playmakers alright, playmakers on the line that can block or put pressure on the opposing QB. Only then will you know how good our current "playmakers" are. If the Super Bowl had shown you anything, it should be how a QB cannot make a play while on his ass. I guess you'd be happy if we added Randy Moss, Chad Johnson and then even drafted McFadden. But then you'd be the first to cry "Get rid of the bums" when they didn't produce because once again we failed to improve where we needed it most. I can't say it enough. We need to improve on the OL and DL before we even THINK about the "skill" positions.
And that may be true. And if that happens and the phone is silent (or you're getting calls that basically give you little or no value), then we should probably take him there. A lot will depend on what Tangini was able to do in F/A before all this happens. I do think Thomas Jones has tade value somewhere, so that would sweeten the deal.
Faneca hasn't been franchised. Bell hasn't been franchised. Adams hasn't been franchised. There are no 3-4 DL worth taking at #6. If McFadden is there, you don't pass him up to reach for another player or to trade down unless you're getting a first round pick next year as well. You're painting a scenario that taking McFadden with the #6 pick means that the team won't draft any other players or sign any other players in free agency, as if McFadden means the team will still have a bad OL. There's a definite chance the team could sign Faneca and Adams to dramatically improve the OL, sign Pace to play SOLB, draft McFadden at #6, and dedicate the rest of the draft to improving the DL and getting OL to groom.
if he makes it to #7, it would not surprise me to see the pats swap the pick to dallas for their 2 #1's and a 3rd.:sad:
There is absolutely no way McFadden falls past #6. I personally don't even think he'll fall to #6. I think either the raiders or the falcons will take him. Raiders, to give Russell some help and the falcons because they need a RB and they may not be completely sold on ryan. They may target a qb in rounds 2 or 3.
The problem is that of he is there at 6 and we pass on him we'll have to watch him kill us twice a year. Thanks to the 49ers we are in a really tough position if DMC is on the board. If we can't find somebody to trade with we need to take him.
don't be surprised if 4/5 top picks are linemen, either dl or ol. unless you think that both kc and atlanta, which need qb talent, are passing up ryan.
