Does the Fargas resigning impact McFadden?

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  1. Mr Electric

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    ...The Raiders still suck.
     
  2. Yisman

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    ....what?

    They're paying Fargas $4 million a year.

    By the way, he doesn't have 4.3 speed. Fastest he ran was 4.35 and that was years ago. He'd be lucky to get 4.5 even now.
     
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    No way J Fargas who dosen't have much mileage on his legs , still dosen't possesss pretty close to 4.3 speed he ran at combine. Your change of pace back Leon washington, did he even crack a 4.5 at the combine? Justin Fargas proved this year he more than change of pace back , he can be a fulltime back . Honestly you rather Have what the jets have at RB, or what the raiders do.
    Raiders were sixth leading rushing team in all of football. They don't have a Oline yet either , so I don't want to hear your oline woes.
     
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    Leon is more quick than fast. He doesn?t have that much speed, but he has a unbeliveable full speed cut. I think his break away speed is just about average. He doesn?t loose any speed when making a cut, that?s what makes him so dangerous expecially at KR.
     
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    Fargas never ran a 4.3. Get it through your head.

    The best he ran was 4.35 and he doesn't run close to that now.

    I know 40 stats mean everything to you, but you can't take a stat from a combine and apply it five years later.

    Uh jeaux, with one of the best running games in football (hint: they weren't) and the top defense in the NFL, they finished 4-12 in a weak division, with a very weak schedule.

    According to football outsiders, the Raiders offense was was 28th in the NFL, and the running game was 21st.
     
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    Dude, a 4.35 is a 4.3 when you're talking about 40s. NFL players get faster in this league too. That's why the speed of the game is so different in the pros than it is in college.

    I saw Justin Fargas play at USC, and for the Raiders live. He is the fastest guy on the field.

    Raiderjoe does give the Raiders and their players too much credit, but Fargas is more talented than the backs we have on the Jets.

    ...why don't you go to a real site, like ESPN.com. The Raiders were 6th in the league in rushing. Lamont Jordan, Justin Fargas, and Dominic Rhodes combined for some good yardage on the ground. The Faders averaged 130 yards a game.
     
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    if you try beeing sarcastic, you suck at it.
     
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    No, actually, it isn't. a 4.35 is a 4.35. There's a big difference. It would round to a 4.4 if you're too lazy to use hundredths.

    The talent is more condensed. The players don't usually become faster.

    A real site is football outsiders, which takes schedule into account.
     
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    The point wasn't necessarily to knock Leon washington./ Hes a pretty good change of Pace back. The point was Jets are in need for a bigtime Rb, Like Mcfadden, more than the raiders are. I find it kind of funny that Jet fans are ripping a team Rb situation, who was the sixth leading rushing team in the NFl.
     
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    ...except you don't round 40 times. If a guy runs a 4.37, the scouts will say that the guy runs a 4.3 40. Hundredths don't matter. It really isn't a big difference. 4.3 to 4.4 is a difference, but it's not "big". If you actually played some form of high school or college athletics, and coaches recorded 40 times, you'd know.

    The players become much faster, because they train harder and they have to keep up with the speed of the game.

    The scheduling doesn't matter. The Raiders were 6th in the league in rushing, and Raiderjoe was right about that -- so you looked up some bullshit website with skewed stats in an attempt to prove him wrong. The Raiders have more yards that 26 other NFL teams. That says a lot about Fargas and the Raiders improving o-line.
     
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    Tell me how you know Justin Fargas dosen't run anywhere close to the forty time I listed. At his private workout he ran a 4.2 something for raiders scouts. Again Justin fargas beside last year never carried the ball asa fulltime RB, so you can't assume wear and tear . (that hes not as fast) Okay Mister Genius tell me what Mcfadden forty time going to be. Mcfadden runs a 4.4 something forty he shouldn't go in top five. Of course not. Its more than just forty times when evaluating a RB.
     
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    Maybe some day you'll understand that. I'm not holding my breath.
     
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    with the new fad in the nfl being 2 starting running backs, i don't see dmac getting past oakland, or atlanta. i think with all thats gone on in atlanta, this past year, they need to generate some buzz with the fans. remember, offence puts asses in the seats. i like mendenhall better, too.
     
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    If you are trying speaking english, you suck at it. HEIL!
     
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    oh come on, you can hate better than that.















    oh wait, i just recall your thread in the TT-Board, you can?t. nvm.
     
  16. Yisman

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    the new fad is two starting RBs, not drafting RBs very high. Why would you spend that much money on a guy who is going to split carries?
    Also, RBs are a high injury risk. Drafting them high is usually a bad idea.
     
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    If you had a clue about the NFL draft, you'd know that a 4.37 is very different than a 4.3.
     
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    Raiders probably have more than they need at Rb on their roster now. Not counting L Jordan whose almost certainly gone. J Fargas , M Bush- Kiffin wanted to play him last year, and D rhodes- should have been 2006 superbowl MVP. Raiders couldn't even get enough carries for rhodes last year. Rhodes proved in his only two starts, against two formible rush defense, in Jaguars and Chargers, that he is capable of carrying the load. I think Raiders will try to trade Rhodes, and get a RB later in the draft for depth. Raiders have more pressing needs on offense than a RB- LT, more oline help and WR.
     
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    You don't even know what football outsiders is? You're even less knowledgeable than I thought, and that's really saying something.
     
  20. Yisman

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    joe, I think you can find better posters to defend you. Start posting in the Wanted section.
     

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