No posts about Clemens? McNamee lawyers show photos of evidence

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  1. AlioTheFool

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    Well, I would have posted something about it, but I don't feel like arguing with Mets fans about how it's pretty fishy that a guy held onto used syringes for seven years.

    Someone is lying to the Feds, and while I was formerly pretty sure it was Clemens, there's now a reasonable doubt that McNamee is just full of shit.

    But of course there will be 50 responses about how I'm blind or somesuch nonsense.
     
  2. typeOnegative13NY

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  3. Don

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    Yesterday's news until there is something more than this. Next week's hearing might be interesting if they all end up sitting at the same table.
     
  4. MSUJet85

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    I think he was holding it for blackmail if Clemens ever crossed him, and while it is very fishy as you say it is still pretty damning evidence

    McNamee's word + DNA samples from syringes > Clemens' word, anyday of the week
     
  5. AlioTheFool

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    Look, I'm not saying that Clemens is innocent. All I'm saying is that this "new" evidence is one helluva coincidence.

    As for it being damning, in a courtroom, if I were on a jury, Yankees fan, Red Sox fan, Mets fan, whatever or not, I'd laugh off the submission of this "evidence" as nothing more than fabrication.

    Here's the most interesting part of that article:

    It's interesting that all along McNamee's story was that he was Clemens' good buddy, and never expected any of this.

    The more I hear, the more I am convinced someone is going way out of their way to avoid federal jail time. Regardless of whether Clemens is guilty or not, McNamee is quite possibly the slimiest person ever involved with MLB.
     
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    make roids legal...I wanna see new and improved roids...I wanna see pitcher throwing the ball 134 mph and I wanna see a 700ft homerun
     
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    I am not saying that McNamee is a good guy but if those syringes has Roger's DNA on it and it can be proven that there was steroids in it, then no matter where it came from it is bad for Roger.
     
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    The evidence is tainted. Who is to say McNamee did not set up Roger. Where were these things for 7 years?
     
  10. ShutEmDownRevis

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    McNamee is a D-Bag, but so is Clemens for lying and perjuring just to protect his legacy.

    McNamee really doesnt seem to have much incentive as he's not making money off this and he likely wont be in trouble no matter what is decided in court, so I am much more prone to believe his side of the story.
     
  11. davecrazy

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    from esquire...
    also, i like how today it came out Clemroids wife took the juice to get in shape for her SI swimsuit shot in 03

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  12. ShutEmDownRevis

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    lmfao

    What a juiced up roid freak. Hope he never makes it to the HoF
     
  13. AlioTheFool

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    Except that purjury would land him in Federal prison. And if it turns out he lied to Mitchell and the FBI, whatever deal he brokered will be gone.

    But what incentive does he have to fake evidence right?
     
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    Clemens needs to come up with a motive as to why McNamee would want to ruin him. Why would he lie about Clemens but tell the truth about Pettitte. I don't see the incentive to even mention Clemens' name and risk jail time if he wasn't telling the truth
     
  15. AlioTheFool

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    Pressure from Federal agents to get answers and names isn't incentive?

    Again, I'm not saying McNamee is necessarily lying. However, his word is about as valuable as the Rolexes that guy sells on the corner by my job.

    I don't know why Clemens has to have the burden of proof. This is America. Even the most guilty aren't responsible for proving their innocence. The prosecution is responsible for proving guilt.
     
  16. davecrazy

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    And telling the truth to Congress would ruin his reputation, keep him out of the hall of fame, and taint his world series "victories".

    I'm sure being an ego maniac like Clemroid, he misjudged what his ex-trainer had on him, and thought he could get away with it.

    Clemroid is all about Clemroid, he thought he could lie under oath and get away with it. The alternative would be to tell the truth and turn his "career" into a joke...which is is becoming already.
     
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    He already gave them Pettitte, what is the point in giving them Clemens. Even if they did pressure him it still doesn't make any sense if he actually had names that was true.

    And Clemens is calling him a liar which is technically switches roles of defendant and prosecution, while I am not a lawyer by any means saying that he is lying without much reason why isn't a good way to face Congress by any means especially if the consequences is jail time for himself. McNamee gave evidence, now it is Clemens and his lawyer's job to prove that it is false or else McNamee has more than Clemens and one is definitely going to commit perjury unless Clemens admits that he did it.
     
  18. Jetfanmack

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    I echo everything Alio said. Clemens probably did this stuff. If you asked me if I thought Clemens did steroids, I would say that he did, certainly. But McNamee's character is so ridiculous, and some of the evidence and how he appeared in the phone call and everything like that is putting some real suspicion behind an already shady character.

    I'm sure most of the people who assume Clemens is guilty no matter what are using what he's saying as proof he did it. If he's innocent, he's doing everything an innocent man would do to try to prove his name innocent. If he's guilty, he's taking a hell of a lot of risks to lie to everyone.
     
  19. Pennythetowelboy

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    im sorry i just can't take a guy named Rusty Hardin seriously. Anyway Clemens looks like he's screwed, so the hearing next week should be interesting.
     

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