Draft Scenario

Discussion in 'Draft' started by Nesquik, Jan 27, 2008.

  1. Nesquik

    Nesquik Well-Known Member

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    This mock really depends on alot of things but they are still very likely.Thinking the past couple days i realized that Atlanta really needs a qb way more than a rb, but with what Adrian Peterson did this year how could u pass up the chance of that happening Aurthur Blank wants to win now and with no Mike Vick Atlanta fans have nothing come to see they need someone who can make a difference now and McFadden is that guy.They really have to take him.

    With that Matty Ryan falls and with that Oak gets screwed but they settle for our guy Vernon Gholston.They better chose for them would be Sedrick Ellis with sapp retiring but knowing Al Davis he would rather Gholston.

    Now with this projection,Dorsey both Longs,McFadden and Gholston are gone.Yeah the worst posiible scenario, cause no matter how badly Clemens played this year it just wouldnt make since giving up on him this easily by picking Ryan with #6 overall.

    Enter my scenario there are 3 teams looking for a qb to pick in the first round Baltimore, Carolina, Chicago.Baltimore is less likly to trade with us seeing as they are guranteed to get either Ryan or Brohm which really isnt a bad oucome. Carolina depending on how safe John Foxs job is, could be looking for a qb but safety is the biggest need.Problem is New Orleans and Denver will get first dibs on whether they want Kenny Phillips or not.

    Chicago for us would be the best position as we can settle down to #14 (as we did last to grab the beast aka Darrele Revis).
    So it would be our 1st #6 overall for theirs #14 and their second a choice of either thier original 3rd or the 3rd they got from San Diego.

    From their at #14 we can either trade down again or pick Gosder Cherilus RT Boston College.Some might say too high but i think he will jump to around this spot during the combine.Im not a big fan of consistently choosing 1st round picks on o-lineman but its kinda hard to doubt their effectiveness.
    With this we would have left #36 overall #44 overall #67 and either #75 or #90. Thats 4 more picks in rounds 2 and 3.

    We could use this ammo to shoot up to the first round or stay where we are at. I say stay where we are, with not choosing Gholston in round 1 we need to to take an OLB either Groves or Harvey should be there at 36 im hoping for Groves.At #44 Dre Moore should be the guy , Pat Sims wont fall that far and besides i think Dre Moore is the better fit.

    On Day 2 we should focus on a corner, nt and wr. With those 2 being the deepest they have been in years. With the emergence of Antonio Cromartie being so dominant everyone is now looking for that tall fast corner who can make a play after he gets the ball. Well his cousin Dominique fits the same mold 6'2 183.We u see Antonio u cant help but think Dominique can do the same things eventually.Thats why if necessary i wouldnt hesitate trading a future 2nd rounder to be in position to draft him.Right now Cromartie is slated in that late 2nd early third but i wouldnt be surprised if he eventually thought of as a first rounder.If we arent able to grab him Brandon Flowers,Dwight Lowery, Justin King should all be around that same slot.

    The second 3rd rounder should be used to bring in a NT belive it or nor Frank Okam has fallen into 3rd-4th round projections , honestly i cant really say if thats a good or bad thing.His knock is not having a great motor and taking plays off well if i was 320 i might fell the need to rest a little i mean u cant go all out all the time.I would mind taking a shot on him. Ahtyba Rubin is interesting i havent heard about him until this week but if Okam is gone he will most likely be there to replace him as the pick

    As for wideout im having trouble deciding on whether we need a tall target or burner well Adrian Arrington isnt 6'4, he dosnt run a 4.3 but hes 6'3 and runs 4.4.I thinks that pretty good for a 4th round choice.

    At this point of the draft its really hard to say personally id just like a prospect that ive heard of before.I love the draft but every year this is time in the draft where i start sayin"who the hell is that". I remember even being mad about the Kerry Rhodes pick years back when i wanted someone else.
    So wioth that i think we should target some linebackers an o-line depth.Not really in any order players i like Kirk Barton OT Ohio State,J Lehman MLB Illinois, Curtis Gatewood OLB Vanderbilt,Josh Johnson QB San Diego, Dennis Dixon QB Oregon.
     
  2. gustoonarmy

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    Very well thought out. I totally agree with trading down and think that if we can land somewhere between 12-16 would be the value that we need , so picking at 14 is spot on.
    I agree about Cherilus , his stock is going to soar , especially during the combine. Another player that I think will rise is Branden Albert. At the moment I think he will go early 3rd / late 2nd
    If we could get those with the help of the Chicago pick I would be ecstatic, the O line should be set for a few years after that.
    I'm not sold on Goulston and think we could do better in FA.
    Nice job Nequick.
     
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  3. wewantsapp

    wewantsapp Well-Known Member

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    Nesquik, I like that Chicago trade scenario a lot, provided that we get Quentin Groves w/that 36th pick as you say. Not sure it would really go through because I think Chicago will stand pat at #14 & wait for either Brohm or Woodson to fall in their laps or try & draft Joe Flacco early. As much as I love Gholston, I wouldn’t bother looking back twice after we get a ton of bodies w/the extra 2nd & 3rd round picks from Chicago. It would give us a rare opportunity to quickly change the face of this team without even taking into account all the moves that we had BETTER make in free agency.

    Take it a step further & trade Jonathan Vilma to Atlanta & get their 2nd draft pick of the 2nd round at #48.
    Atlanta’s current MLB is Keith Brooking who will turn 33yrs old in October of the 2008 season.
    His contract calls for $4.9 million in 2008 & $5.5 million in 2009. That’s a lot. And then here would be my dream 1st 3 round draft scenario;

    14th pick Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 6-6 340.
    36 Quentin Groves OLB Auburn 6-4 254
    44 Dre Moore DE Maryland 6-4 307
    48 Devin Thomas WR Michigan St. 6-2 218
    67 Dwight Lowery CB San Jose St 6-1 185
    90 Josh Barrett SS Arizona St 6-3 231
     
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  4. Jabba the Jet

    Jabba the Jet New Member

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    The only problem with this is that I can't see anyone choosing Vernon Gholston over Sedrick Ellis, especially a team that deploys the 43 defense, and especially a team that deploys the 43 defense "AND" has a need at Defensive Tackle

    Al Davis may have lost his fastball, but I have a hard time believing he's that far gone

    JMO
     
  5. Nesquik

    Nesquik Well-Known Member

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    Even if Gholston falls to us i still would do the trade.Its just too much to pass up up and it basically adds up.And yeah Chicago could just wait for Woodson or Brohm but Matt Ryan has clearly separated himself from the 2 other qbs. Think about it Peyton Manning , Ryan Leaf im sure that they dont want the mistake of having the oppurtunity take the one they want rather then just settling for the one they get.
     
  6. Warhound7

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    Last I checked the Vikings are in need of another QB since Jackson obviously isnt the answer... Further, we wouldnt trade down just to trade back up.
     
  7. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    Isnt this exactly what we did the year we drafted Kellen Clemens?
     
  8. DraftaFullBack

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    It was his first year starting and he almost got his team to the playoffs with a group of no name receivers, I honestly don't understand how you can write him off already.
     
  9. Nesquik

    Nesquik Well-Known Member

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    The Vikings are not gonna pick a qb in round 1, they wouldnt want to admit the mistake and give up on Jackson so quickly.Really its hard to say but qbs should be given atleast 3 years and a proven target at reviever /te.Look at drew Brees he was declared a bust and in 04. Rivers was chosen , now look at Brees when he was given Gates in 05 his numbers went up dramatically.
     
  10. Nesquik

    Nesquik Well-Known Member

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    cromartie ballin in the senior bowl has really messed up my mock. He look like a first rounder right now
     

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