Don't rule out McFadden sliding to #6

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  1. Jabba the Jet

    Jabba the Jet New Member

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    IT CAN HAPPEN

    Initially I didn't think there was a snowballs chance, but by all indications Sedrick Ellis who was already locked in as a TOP 10 Pick {lets keep that in mind lest someone starts tossing around the workout warrior label} had a fantastic Senior Bowl week and has likely leaped into the TIER 1 Group of "Elite Prospects" with McFadden, Dorsey and the Long's

    What does this mean?

    The implications for the Jets can be staggering, but only if Atlanta follows the script and takes a QB as many suspect

    That would mean you have five elite prospects, TIER 1 so to speak, for five teams .. as opposed to the four elites for four teams PRE-ELLIS cracking the top tier

    In plain English, RUN DMC is back in play for the Jets

    I wouldn't get too excited about that just yet, I'm still not saying its likely, just that its a real, genuine possibility and not a pipe-dream .. in other words don't be shocked if you see Sedrick Ellis appear in the TOP 5 in some mock draft projections over the coming weeks with Darren McFadden sliding to the NY Jets at #6

    I suspect some "credible" mocks from "reputable" sites may start to read as follows at the top of the board

    1. Dolphins - Chris Long or Glenn Dorsey
    2. Rams - Glenn Dorsey or Chris Long
    3. Raiders - Sedrick Ellis
    4. Falcons - Matt Ryan or Brian Brohm
    5. Chiefs - Jake Long
    6. NY JETS - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

    Miami won't take a RB at #1 .. Parcells doesn't believe in drafting RB's that high and the money they have invested in Ronnie Brown, a recent TOP 3 Pick mind you {#1 Overall?}, all but removes McFadden from their equation

    The Rams have Steven Jackson .. nuff said

    The Chiefs have Larry Johnson who was recently re-signed to a mega deal .. nuff said

    And of course all of this is predicated on Atlanta selecting a QB, otherwise its five elites for five teams with the Jets being the odd team out at #6, at which point the Jets will have their choice of the two QB's or Gholston, etc.

    Anyway, assuming Atlanta does take one of the QB's as suspected ...

    Now we're talking Raiders and Jets for McFadden and Ellis .. its that simple .. and don't dismiss the idea of the Raiders selecting Sedrick Ellis, IMO its entirely possible, Sapp called it a career and they need an IMPACT DT more than a RB

    And that would leave "YOU KNOW WHO" sliding to the NY Jets at #6 Overall

    Again, this is not a pipe dream .. this is a real possibility and simple mathematics .. RUN DMC is back in play

    JMO
     
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  2. Flyboy

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    I don't think the Raiders will pass on McFadden. They need to improve more on their offense than their defense. Their defense wasn't so bad considering their offense was inept in the last couple of years. They have their franchise QB, now they will get their HB to strengthen their offense.
     
  3. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    When did this Run DMC nickname start and can it be ended shortly?
     
  4. WW85

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    Well thought out Jabba. As you said, Atlanta is the Key.....they have to take a QB.

    Is Dorsey still going to be a #1 or 2 Pick? Some scouts and draft Guru's are ranking Ellis right up there with Dorsey.

    I wouldn't mind Ellis or DMC. If Ellis bulks about another 15 lbs, which is very possible. Your looking at a 6'1" 320lb NT which is perfect.
     
  5. Jabba the Jet

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    I don't think that has fully sunken in with a great many draftniks just yet, because its hard to imagine after months of seeing a consensus, across the board projection of Dorsey ahead of Ellis .. its hard to just wake up one morning and suddenly accept that these two players are being viewed with the same high regard .. but that does appear to be the case and I suspect that will really sink in as the Guru's being to reflect that sentiment with their Post Senior Bowl analysis

    Dorsey may continue to maintain a slight nod over Ellis, but that lead is a lot thinner than some suspect .. razor thin

    Dorsey may be slightly ahead, but at this point it would "NOT" surprise me if Ellis were to pass him

    I think you'll begin to see Sedrick Ellis tagged as a consensus TIER 1 Prospect with McFadden, Dorsey and the Long's

    Anyway, I'll be happy with Ellis or McFadden .. either one
     
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    I agree, it's a real possibility. I hope it doesn't shake out that way. I beleive Gholston is a perfect fit. No doubt, McFadden is home run hitter and if it works out like that I'm OK.
     
  7. SameOldJets2008

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    Dude Ellis is a perfect 3 technique dt not a nt. He would be more suited using his quickness to become a 34 de. Do you really want another d-rob on the team.

    and anyway whoever picks first the raiders or Falcons, if the first doesn't take dmc, the other will its as simple as that, sorry guys DMC wont be sliding to us
     
  8. WW85

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    I'm glad you have all the answers...Thank's...I must be a Jerk and have no clue.
     
  9. SameOldJets2008

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    I wasnt trying to sound like a jerk but i'm just looking at the facts, we already tried to mold a prototype 3 technique into a nt and it didn't work, why would we try it again
     
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    I really cant see either Atlanta or Oakland passing on McFadden, let alone both of them. With that said I couldnt see Cleveland passing on Peterson last year so you never know, especially with RBs.

    As for Ellis, I'm hoping he does work his way into a legit top 5 pick, therefore dropping someone who is a better fit for us into our laps(McFadden?) I think Ellis COULD become a good NT prospect but hate the idea of drafting another player that needs to bulk up in the top 10.

    I'm hoping McFadden drops..
     
  11. The Dark Knight

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    The Raiders would not pick Ellis over McFadden. That would be a horrible and idiotic move. Okay, maybe they would make it then. haha.
     
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    I disagree, they could, Sapp is gone and their Interior line needs help.
     
  13. WW85

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    IMO, Yes Ellis is a true 4-3 DT. The point I was trying to make,he has all the ability to become a NT by gaining some weight he can fill the role. I'm not the only person who believes Ellis can make the transition. I've never felt D-Rob could be a NT, he's a fish out of water.
     
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    I really hope so. Could you imagine if he was there at #6. That would be great for our team.


    We could trade down easier.
     
  15. xjets2002x

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    I would be shocked if McFadden slipped to 6, and as much as I'd like to have him, I'm really rooting against it because though it would be the "sexy" pick, I don't think it would have that large of an impact on us. We're a team in desperate need of an improved interior, and I think this year has to be approached with a building out approach. Moreover, this is the same group that's been able to find playmakers(Kerry Rhodes, Leon Washington) in the later rounds, and I see no reason why that would change.

    In any event, here's why I'd be shocked.

    1.Mike Smith is going to have a mediocre quarterback, whether it be a rookie or Byron Leftwich. Either is going to need a strong running game to succeed, and Atlanta has a superstar vacuum. This might me a business decision more than anything else.

    2.In his wildest dreams, Al Davis could never have imagined a backfield built around a giant qb with a cannon and an athlete like McFadden. Whateve rthe situation there, he's always the guy making the picks.

    -X-
     
  16. Jabba the Jet

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    The Raiders might not have a chance to take him .. he could concievably Go 1 or 2 to Miami or the Rams and the Raiders could be looking at Chris Long or Dorsey along with McFadden

    Ellis is in the running for the TOP 2 .. can't rule him out of that mix either

    JMO
     
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  17. LoyalJetsFan

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    No way in hell that zombie Al Davis, passes on McFadden
     
  18. PinPointPenning10

    PinPointPenning10 Well-Known Member

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    It's going to be very interesting to see what the Raiders do with Fargas. I think if they give him big money, they could very well go with Ellis. I still doubt it though because it's not like Fargas is great and most teams are using 2 backs now anyway.
     
  19. Joe Willie White Shoes

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    Even if McFadden drops, I don't see the Jets taking him under any circumstances. The pick would be Gholsten. The Jets don't need a RB, but they desperately need impact front 7 defensive players.
     
  20. PinPointPenning10

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    If Ellis goes top 2 (likely meaning the Dolphins took Dorsey at 1), then the Raiders would likely take Chris Long because he fills a big need and his dad played for them. Then if the Falcons went QB, McFadden would fall to the Jets. Big if though.
     

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