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  1. onefanjet

    onefanjet Well-Known Member

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    I found this article on "migrainemiamiblogspot"......... I thought it would stir up a little conversation on the current potentially "best historical upset possibility" conversations floating around out there......thoughts? opinions? :up:

    Thursday, January 24, 2008
    The Greatest Super Bowl Upset?

    The Super Bowl hype machine is in full swing and I'm actually hearing speculation that a Giants win over New England would be the greatest upset in Super Bowl history. Well, it would be an upset but anybody who says this can't have much of a grasp of NFL history. The greatest upset in Super Bowl and all of NFL history for that matter has always been and always will be the New York Jets over the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl III.

    The Colts were favored by anywhere from 19 to 22 points. The Patriots are currently favored by 13 points. So if the betting line determines how great an upset is it can't be this game. If you instead define an upset by the shock of the unexpected outcome it's still Super Bowl III hands down. It's hard to imagine how anybody could be as shocked today by an upset as the fans of the time were shocked by the Jets' win. A few points:

    1) There was no interleague play other than the Super Bowl. People widely considered the AFL to be a much inferior league and those impressions were massively reinforced by the results of Super Bowls I and II.

    2) The Jets were only the third-best team in the AFL in 1968. The Chiefs and Raiders tied for that league's best record. Those teams were the AFL's first two Super Bowl representatives and they had gotten crushed. Why would the Jets be expected to fare better than the AFL's two powerhouses?

    3) The Jets needed a little luck to get to the Super Bowl. The Raiders went 12-2 in 1968 on the heels of their 1969 13-1 season. The Jets managed to edge them out in an all-time classic championship game. Driving for the winning score, Oakland botched a lateral and the players stood around thinking it was an incomplete pass allowing New York to recover it and move on. That win was the inexperienced Jets' first postseason game EVER. Super Bowl III would be just their second.

    4) The Colts were a great team. They didn't just dominate in 1968, they had been a perennial contender for a decade. Only one NFL championship game between 1958-1968 did not feature either the Baltimore Colts or the Green Bay Packers. They were the two greatest NFL teams of the era. Many experts thought the 1968 Colts might be the best team ever to play. They had lost just two regular season games in two years.

    Most experts considered the AFL an inferior league, composed mainly of NFL castoffs, rejects, and has-beens with a sprinkling of a few star players, closer really to the Canadian Football League than the NFL. The NFL was a man's league of tough running, brutal defense, Nitschke, Butkus, and Lombardi. The AFL was that crazy pass-wacky league featuring Lance "Bambi" Alworth and world-class playboy Joe Namath. Today, everyone's familiar with the "every given Sunday" cliche. Until Super Bowl III however, that phrase did not apply to the AFL vs. the NFL. The Giants almost beat the Pats in Week 17, just over a month ago and the G-Men are red-hot now. So how could a Giants win be anything more than a mild suprise? By contrast hardly anyone expected the Jets to hang with the Colts, let alone prevail. It's still the gold standard for NFL upsets.
     
  2. NY Vilmaniac

    NY Vilmaniac New Member

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    best upset ever in my eyes

    they should make a movie
     
  3. GSourJr

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    I was leaning toward pulling for the Giants next Sunday, but if they're going to call a Giants upset "greater" than SUpe III, than I'm routing for NE.

    Already too much pain in this matchup. Can't afford to lose our 1 claim to fame.
     
  4. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    The Giants played the Pats close already this year so there should be no way this is considered the greatest upset ever.
     
  5. allan1

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    heck, even we played the Pats close this year
     
  6. MontrealJet

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    They almost beat the Pats 3 weeks ago for crying out loud!!!!
    :pats_suck:
     
  7. GreenMachine

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    Isn't there a Namath movie in the works?
     
  8. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I think this greatest upset ever talk is ludicrous...the Jet win both by point spread and public perception was way greater....I heard that carton asshole on the radio the other day sayin if the giants win itll be righ up there with the 1980 olympic team hockey win......what an asshole
     
  9. Gloom N Doom

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    If the Giants win, it's just another upset victory with the special treat of ruining the Pats undefeated season.
    The Jets victory in '69 changed the the league and thus history. It made the NFL what it is today.
    I feel sorry for any of you youngsters who were not alive to see it or too young to realize what happened. The whole football world was turned upside down.
    The Jets could win the next 5 SB's and it still would not compare to the feeling of that day!
     
  10. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you need to worry about that. Our SBIII win shaped the NFL as we know. If the Giants win it would take absolutely nothing away from that. I hope the Giants win and the Pats are so devestated that their downfall begins next year.
     
  11. jetzIII

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    There just trying to hype this SB up. Just another overrated SB that I will not even turn my TV on until 6:30. Just like the Sport casters have been talking about the ratings being so high all year, because they want to see history with the Pats, that is BS, it's everyone wants to see them lose.
     
  12. sect105

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    There is no way it would be considered. I would estimate that there are about 35% of the commentators picking the Giants out right. Plus, the point spread in this game is not even close to

    Bears vs. Pats 14 pts
    Pats vs. Packers 14 Pts
    Packers vs. Broncos 14 Pts.
     
  13. Scruggy

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    Well, one thing's for sure. Hopefully, when the Cheatriots lose, it will be considered the biggest CHOKE in Sports history. Putting a certain MLB 2004 3 - 0 comeback to bed.
     
  14. GreenHornet

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    SB III was hands down the greatest upset ever in a Super Bowl. The original poster put down all the reasons; the biggest was the the AFL got absolutely no recognition was so ever.

    While the Giants beating NE would be entertaining as the team that stopped the Pats from a perfect record, and for all purposes tarnished the Pat's record into "just another good season" by a football team, there is no way the win could compete with what the Jets did in SB III.
     
  15. sect105

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    I do not think so. The Yankees collapse never happened in Baseball history. There have been quite a few upsets in the history of the NFL.
     
  16. Beamen

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    I've read about it several times, however, it is not listed on the reported star (Jake Gyllenhaal)'s IMDB site, or anywhere else I can find, for that matter...
     

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