A "leg whip"? Just goes to show that you folks see what you want to see.... There is a difference between a trip and a leg whip. I don't think you guys know what it is...:lol::lol:
Well this conversation is clearly going places. I think it will only take a few more defensive posts from me before everyone says "you're right, we're being silly for hating these people so much. we don't hate the patriots at all! :grin: "
After further review...he got away with it. I know blah blah, calls go both ways. I never said that it wasn't deserved of a flag.
The refs blew that call, blew the one where Semour shit pushed there QB and the spearing too. The blew the Pats all the way back in the locker room too.
Actually, a trip is a 10 yarder, a leg whip is a 15 yarder... But either way, hitting the QB low like that should also result in a roughing call, which is a 15 yarder...
So the refs don't favor the pats then. They get penalized just as much as the other teams? Or do the pats never get any calls against them that could cost them the game? You will have tough time proving that here. You would have ask people to believe that they didn't see what they saw. What ever happened to the pats using the different frequencies than what they were assigned by the NFL and the complaints from other teams that the pats seemed to know the plays they were going to run on offense? If the patriots never cheated or got away with not being called for what would have been penalties, maybe there would be no need to try to defend them? http://ipbiz.blogspot.com/2007/09/goodell-on-nbc-on-sept-16-about.html http://diehardsteel.com/2007/09/13/...-our-stuff-out-in-2002-afc-championship-game/
Using an extremely small sample size you can make the case that any one team is being favored by the refs while the other is being screwed. When I said "I know blah blah, calls go both ways. " I was referencing the common "calls go both ways long term" argument that was clearly coming and I choose to not say it again when it's been said so many times ad nausem. I don't get what you mean when you say they "favor the pats." If you're suggesting that there is literally a conspiracy to crown the Pats by the NFL then you have got to realize how insane and childish that sounds. Yes, the Pats have been helped out by some questionable calls and in small sample size it doesn't balance out but over the course of one entire year the good and bad calls mostly negate each other. Yes, clearly Vrabel got away with one and it should have negated the int, but in the context of the entire game I still don't see the Chargers winning even without that huge momentum shift. 1. I haven't seen any mainstream articles to support the claim that the Patriots have jammed or stolen radio signals. The closest thing I've seen is Hines Ward basically saying "They recognized our formations really well and them cheating is the only explanation, it can't be that they were well prepared." They watch a lot of film, good teams should generally know what the other guy will probably be running if he lines up in a certain formation in a certain situation and the film shows them doing a certain thing every time that formation and situation come up. 2. Even if the Patriots didn't get involved in Spygate everyone on this site would still slam them. Why? Because they are fucking dominant and they aren't sexy or nice about their intentions to focus on football and eliminate the bullshit. Sometimes they, just like everyone else, do go over the line in celebrations or after the play roughness or break (trivial imo) league rules. Fine, punish them and get on with it, but each offense that pisses you off isn't justification for going overboard with bitching that reeks of jealousy. I know this post comes off as the typical New England fan with the basic defensive remarks and the typical arrogance, but I really do try to be consistent. It makes my blood curdle when any fan goes on a fanboyish "I <3333 (my team player)" or "I hate (opposing player x) b/c he has no class." rant. I don't expect people on a Jets website to say "fine, you're right. we're really just upset that our team isn't that good right now and we have to watch yours do nothing but win" but if a topic comes that directly involves attacks on the Pats on some way I'll try to offer my own insights.
That was just basically more accusations. I didn't even say that without a doubt that the Pats never did, I just said I haven't seen any articles that have anything more than basic accusations.It probably was investigated. How would favoring a Pats team that most of the nation hates be good business for the NFL? 1. Did I say they weren't involved with spygate? 2. He hit them while he was throwing the fucking ball! 3. Yes it does help when calls go your way. Whats your point? So basically if someone here says that Tom Brady raped their dog in their backyard and I said "Thats absurd, you just made that up" it must be true, why else would someone try to defend him?
all the patriots defenders are dirty. Rodney Harrison teaches them technique. even Bill Simmons, Patriots homer extraodinaire admitted it was dirty: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080122 Did you notice Mike Vrabel sweeping the leg -- literally and figuratively -- on Phil Rivers' first interception? The only thing Vrabel was missing was a bloody nose. Yes, it should have been a penalty. And, yes, it was creepy this happened during the same weekend Versus gave up and just ran the "Karate Kid" trilogy for an entire weekend.
The Patriots defense is the dirtiest defense I've seen in my lifetime. Seymour, Wilfork, Bruschi, Vrabel, Harrison, Seau, etc.
I'd rather root for a team that loses than have to defend a bunch of dirty cheaters. The whole organization makes me sick. they cheat in a multitude of ways. It's not just filming the other team's signals. The crap they pull with radio frequencies, how the opposition's coach to QB communication mysteriously goes down at key points, etc.
Matt Light just said on a radio interview that he'd like to be called a dirty player. Yep, Belicheat has the team brainwashed into thinking that being dirty is something to be proud of. No wonder they take so many cheapshots.
You know that's not true. If the shoe were on the New York foot, noone here would stop rooting for the team because "so and so is a dirty player", or "the team cheats". Everyone here would be defending the team, regardless of circumstances.
I could never bring myself to do what you do. "He was pushed into him" "he accidentally tried to gouge the opponent's eye out" "he accidentally took out the QB's leg on a play where the QB wasn't involved" "cheating is ok because obviously everyone is doing it" "that wasn't a hit out of bounds, Harrison just couldn't figure out where the sideline was" I've never done this and will never do this.
