The following list includes all NFL (or AFL) head coaches who led their teams to sub-.200 winning percentages as returning head coaches. These are all coaches who were in at least their 2nd season with a team. John McKay is the only returning head coach to suffer through a sub-.200 season and go on to eventually lead the same franchise to a playoff win. One coach. One coach out of 89. I was unable to use code to present this list in table form here. This was the best I could do. If interested, I can e-mail you a version which would be more pleasing to the eye. How to read this stuff: 1st line- Coach, year/team, the year of the coach's tenure in which he coached the team to a sub-.200 record 2nd line- W-L-T record, winning percentage during the season in question 3rd line- *future performance NCA= Never Coached Again as a head coach in the NFL (or AFL) *Examples- Pop Ivy coached the Cardinals again in 1960 and 1961. Then he went on to coach the Oilers. Allie Sherman coached the Giants to two 7-7 marks after his .107 season. Code: Ted Nesser 1921 Columbus Panhandles 2nd Year with team 1-8 .111 NCA Frank Fausch 1922 Evansville Crimson Giants 2nd 0-3 .000 NCA Carl Storck 1923 Dayton Triangles 2nd 1-6-1 .188 2-6, 0-7-1, 1-4-1 Jim Thorpe 1923 Oorang Indians 2nd 1-10 .091 NCA Leo Lyons 1924 Rochester Jeffersons 2nd 0-3 .000 NCA Red Weaver 1925 Columbus Tigers 2nd 0-9 .000 NCA Harry Robb 1926 Canton Bulldogs 2nd 1-9 .100 NCA Doc Young 1926 Hammond Pros 2nd 0-4 .000 NCA Faye Abbott 1929 Dayton Triangles 2nd 0-6 .000 NCA Bill Behman 1930 Frankfort Yellow Jackets 2nd 2-10-1 .192 1-6-1 Jack Depler 1931 Brooklyn Dodgers 2nd 2-12 .143 NCA Lud Wray 1935 Philadelphia Eagles 3rd 2-9 .182 NCA Hugo Bezdek 1938 Cleveland Rams 2nd 0-3 .000 NCA Johnny Blood 1938 Pittsburgh Steelers 2nd 2-9 .182 0-3 Milan Creighton 1938 Chicago Cardinals 4th 2-9 .182 NCA Bert Bell 1939 Philadelphia Eagles 4th 1-9-1 .136 1-10, 0-2 Dutch Clark 1941 Cleveland Rams 3rd 2-9 .182 5-6 Bill Edwards 1942 Detroit Lions 2nd 0-3 .000 NCA Pete Cawthon 1944 Brooklyn Tigers 2nd 0-5 .000 NCA Gus Dorais 1946 Detroit Lions 4th 1-10 .091 3-9 Curly Lambeau 1949 Green Bay Packers 29th 2-10 .167 1950-51 Cardinals, 1952-53 Redskins Herman Ball 1951 Washington Redskins 3rd 0-3 .000 NCA Red Strader 1951 New York Yanks 2nd 1-9-2 .167 1955 49ers Joe Stydahar 1952 Los Angeles Rams 3rd 0-1 .000 1953-54 Cardinals Joe Stydahar 1954 Chicago Cardinals 2nd 2-10 .167 NCA Sid Gillman 1959 Los Angeles Rams 5th 2-10 .167 1960-69 Chargers, 1971 Chargers, 1973-74 Oilers Pop Ivy 1959 Chicago Cardinals 2nd 2-10 .167 6-5-1, 5-7, 1962-63 Oilers Mike Nixon 1960 Washington Redskins 2nd 1-9-2 .167 1965 Steelers Eddie Erdelatz 1961 Oakland Raiders 2nd 0-2 .000 NCA Marty Feldman 1962 Oakland Raiders 2nd 0-5 .000 NCA Norm Van Brocklin 1962 Minnesota Vikings 2nd 2-11-1 .179 5-8-1, 8-5-1, 7-7, 4-9-1, 1968-74 Atlanta Falcons Bob Waterfield 1962 Los Angeles Rams 3rd 1-7 .125 NCA Jack Faulkner 1963 Denver Broncos 2nd 2-11-1 .179 0-4 Red Hickey 1963 San Francisco 49ers 5th 0-3 .000 NCA Allie Sherman 1966 New York Giants 6th 1-12-1 .107 7-7, 7-7 Mac Speedie 1966 Denver Broncos 3rd 0-2 .000 NCA Norb Hecker 1967 Atlanta Falcons 2nd 1-12-1 .107 0-3 Bill Austin 1968 Pittsburgh Steelers 3rd 2-11-1 .179 1970 Washington Redskins Joe Collier 1968 Buffalo Bills 3rd 0-2 .000 NCA Joe Kuharich 1968 Philadelphia Eagles 5th 2-12 .143 NCA Jim Dooley 1969 Chicago Bears 2nd 1-13 .071 6-8, 6-8 Clive Rush 1970 Boston Patriots 2nd 1-6 .143 NCA Jerry Williams 1971 Philadelphia Eagles 3rd 0-3 .000 NCA Ed Khayat 1972 Philadelphia Eagles 2nd 2-11-1 .179 NCA J.D. Roberts 1972 New Orleans Saints 3rd 2-11-1 .179 NCA Bill Peterson 1973 Houston Oilers 2nd 0-5 .000 NCA Harland Svare 1973 San Diego Chargers 3rd 1-6-1 .188 NCA Alex Webster 1973 New York Giants 5th 2-11-1 .179 NCA Howard Schnellenberger 1974 Baltimore Colts 2nd 0-3 .000 NCA John North 1975 New Orleans Saints 3rd 1-5 .167 NCA Tommy Prothro 1975 San Diego Chargers 2nd 2-12 .143 6-8, 7-7, 1-3 Bill Arnsbarger 1976 New York Giants 3rd 0-7 .000 NCA John McKay 1977 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2nd 2-12 .143 5-11, 10-6, 5-10-1, 9-7, 5-4, 2-14, 6-10 Paul Wiggin 1977 Kansas City Chiefs 3rd 1-6 .143 NCA Bill Johnson 1978 Cincinnati Bengals 3rd 0-5 .000 NCA Monte Clark 1979 Detroit Lions 2nd 2-14 .125 9-7, 8-8, 4-5, 9-7, 4-11-1 Dick Nolan 1980 New Orleans Saints 3rd 0-12 .000 NCA Ron Erhardt 1981 New England Patriots 4th 2-14 .125 NCA Mike McCormack 1981 Baltimore Colts 2nd 2-14 .125 1982 Seahawks Ed Biles 1982 Houston Oilers 2nd 1-8 .111 0-6 Jack Patera 1982 Seattle Seahawks 7th 0-2 .000 NCA Sam Rutigliano 1984 Cleveland Browns 7th 1-7 .125 NCA Kay Stephenson 1984 Buffalo Bills 2nd 2-14 .125 0-4 Leeman Bennett 1986 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2nd 2-14 .125 NCA Don Coryell 1986 San Diego Chargers 9th 1-7 .125 NCA Rod Dowhower 1986 Indianapolis Colts 2nd 0-13 .000 NCA Tom Landry 1988 Dallas Cowboys 29th 3-13 .188 NCA Darryl Rogers 1988 Detroit Lions 4th 2-9 .182 NCA Ron Meyer 1991 Indianapolis Colts 6th 0-5 .000 NCA John Robinson 1991 Los Angeles Rams 9th 3-13 .188 NCA Richard Williamson 1991 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2nd 3-13 .188 NCA Sam Wyche 1991 Cincinnati Bengals 8th 3-13 .188 1992-95 Buccaneers Dick MacPherson 1992 New England Patriots 2nd 2-14 .125 NCA David Shula 1993 Cincinnati Bengals 2nd 3-13 .188 3-13, 7-9, 1-6 Jack Pardee 1994 Houston Oilers 5th 1-9 .100 NCA June Jones 1996 Atlanta Falcons 3rd 3-13 .188 1998 Chargers Rich Kotite 1996 New York Jets 2nd 1-15 .063 NCA Lindy Infante 1997 Indianapolis Colts 2nd 3-13 .188 NCA Bruce Coslet 1998 Cincinnati Bengals 3rd 3-13 .188 4-12, 0-3 Ray Rhodes 1998 Philadelphia Eagles 4th 3-13 .188 1999 Packers Mike Ditka 1999 New Orleans Saints 3rd 3-13 .188 NCA Chris Palmer 2000 Cleveland Browns 2nd 3-13 .188 NCA Mike Riley 2000 San Diego Chargers 2nd 1-15 .063 5-11 George Seifert 2001 Carolina Panthers 3rd 1-15 .063 NCA Dick LeBeau 2002 Cincinnati Bengals 3rd 2-14 .125 NCA Marty Mornhinweg 2002 Detroit Lions 2nd 3-13 .188 NCA Dennis Erickson 2004 San Francisco 49ers 2nd 2-14 .125 NCA Dave Wannstedt 2004 Miami Dolphins 5th 1-8 .111 NCA Jim Haslett 2005 New Orleans Saints 6th 3-13 .188 NCA Dom Capers 2005 Houston Texans 4th 2-14 .125 NCA Scott Linehan 2007 St. Louis Rams 2nd 3-13 .188 ???
I think Linehan will get another year. Bulger and Jackson were both hurt for chanks of the season. The offensive line was also descimated by injury.
Yeah, he will probably get another year. History would indicate, though, that he is probably an awful NFL head coach. It would also tell you to bet heavily against the Rams ever winning a playoff game with Scott Linehan as their head coach.
Any time you have top start Gus Frerotte and a white running back you know its not the coaches fault.
Tremendous amount of research there Cakes. Nice work. Not very comforting mind you. lol Hopefully, Mangini can become the exception to history.
That's right. Mangini avoided joining the list after the Jets beat the Chiefs. Of course, Cam Cameron did not make the list because he was not a returning coach. Obviously, he was in his first year. I sent this list in its original nice-looking format to a Rams fan prior to Week 17. I noted that his team's coach and my team's coach were in danger of going on the list. I'll post his comments on Linehan later tonight. Suffice it to say, he is not particularly pleased with Linehan.
We may have beat the Chiefs, but I think it will still be an uphill climb for him. I'm pulling for him though. I do like how he has approached training and preparing the team. I also like their philosophy on finding guys to be a part of the program. Hopefully the organization can get a foot hold and push themselves up out of the hole.
Very nice job on the research. I'm thinking you hit the nail on the head: Linehan may not be gone but he's done.
I'm not really sold on Linehan, but aside from the old stand bys, who have turned into only slightly above average NFL players, they have one of the least talented rosters in the league. Part of that is talent development, and it's the coaches fault, but it's mostly the front office. This is a terrible group of guys. -X-
Yep, this guy's not good. I understand the Rams played the Eagles and the Giants. One is my NFC Super Bowl preseason pick and the other one is the defending Super Bowl champions. But, 38-3 and 41-13? C'mon! Linehan sucks.
Did you see the clip of him answering press conference questions today. He clearly doesn't have a clue. He's gone in 3 weeks if the current trends hold up
this is another good example of a coach being more effective as a coordinator and not a head coach. I would take Linehan in microsecond as our offensive coordinator...if it meant we fired Schotty
Maybe more teams need to look at guys that aren't coordinators, but maybe more focused on the fundamentals like o-line or d-line. Their egos get in the way of the job their coordinators are trying to do and messes up team chemistry.
