If Pennington remains on the Jets, he'll have as good a chance to win the starting job as Clemens next season. Mangini is in a make or break year, rest assured he'll go with the guy who he believes gives him the best chance to win. If Pennington is shipped out the Jets will probably bring in another vet to compete. That pool is less then stellar which makes any decision on Pennington that much tougher to make. As much as I'd like to see the Jets bring in the guy in my sig, I can't imagine they'll drop Penny and draft a young guy unless they have a guaranteed 2 more years to work with.
So in other words, you've recited every myth from this message board enough for it to become fact. Regardless that NFL coaches put him in the game and he actually makes the throws, you and your friends have convinced each other that he can't. I guess that settles it then, his career is over.
People who hate Chad close their eyes every time he throws beyond 5 yards and then pretend it doesn't happen or blame it on YAC.
The sad thing is people who root for other teams laugh at us Hysterically for supporting this guy as he throws countless wiffle balls up in the air every game. The support of Chad after his performance this year is beyond a joke. It's actually a joke that is not even funny anymore.
So much for trying to have a rational discussion, that was not worth it in the first place. Why is it when you argue a fact with someone with a man crush on Chad they always use a flawed thought process? Why did I try to use logic with the delusional? I live in Miami, they do not want him here. Want to know why? "Because he has a popgun arm" " He throws ducks" " His arm is not NFL caliber" " Sure he is a smart QB but he has the weakest arm in the NFL" " He can not make all the throws required of an NFL QB" Those are among the myriad of comments from football experts. His career is not over, it will be in approximately 3 years but he still has time. Another team if not the Jets will try him out. They will also realize he can not make a deep out, or sideline pass consistently enough to keep a quality Defense honest. But he will still get a job and might even land in a better spot. Good for him.
LOL on hating Chad. Maybe I realize his arm is no longer NFL caliber. I have never said anything about YAC. I do not use a stat for one QB and refuse to use it for another. Fact remains he can not make all the NFL throws. Sorry to be the one to tell you that but tell you I will.
Football experts? :lol: Good one. If he couldn't make the throws he'd be released and his career over. Get back to me when that happens, until then I'd say you are the one who is delusional.
How many times has he done that? It is such a waste of time defending Chad, he had is bright spots, hope he does well somewhere else or stays as a back up.
You are right he can make all the throws as his 1-8 record this year indicates. Thanks for opening up my eyes. You are right the one throw in the beginning of the game in Cincinnati convinced me. Should I count all those great throws to Aaron Ross and his wonderful YAC's? LOL Debating the delusional, know nothing fan.............. No thank you. I will continue being a Jet fan, not a fan of any one particular player.
So the whole point of your argument is that Chad doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, yet you say he may very well thrive in MIN. Last time I checked, the Vikings were an NFL team. People who know football often say that arm strength is the most overrated aspect of being a QB. By your logic, J. Russel should be the best QB in the league and give his team the best chance to win. Talk about flawed logic...
Another one to continue the idiotic argument.................joy. Maybe you do not read well but here is what I said: "I can see how some might think Chad would thrive in a different environment, say Minnesota. " Minnesota has a great O-line and an even better stable of RB's that play in a dome. Do not be an asshole just to continue this useless argument.
I am the biggest Chad supporter, but he needs to go. He is not going to be the starter for this team in 2008 probably, and if you want him to be your back-up you better have a solid #3 since he is so injury prone. I say take a 5th round pick minimum and cut ties.
His arm may be strong enough to make some throws, but not consistently enough to be successful. Arm strength is sometimes overrated, but bad decision-making never is, and Chad threw too many bad picks this year for an "intelligent" QB. The fact is that even when he makes the right decision, he can't always get the ball to the receiver. He relies on timing and accuracy, but timing is easily disrupted, and he was not accurate beyond 5-8 yards this year.
If you're a Jet fan then you want the best chance to win. Tell me who you're going to bring in that's going to be an upgrade from Chad if you get rid of him. If you're ready to turn the franchise over the Clemens based on what we've seen from him and our O-line, it's a good thing your job won't depend on it. We're likely going to need at least two QBs to get through the season, so tell me who you're improvement is going to be. Not just Puck, all of you guys who want to "cut ties" and "move on". Easy to say, harder to give me a solution. Either be champ and just recite the same bullshit over and over or tell me what your solution is then.
Your in dangerous territory now. He is going to reference the Legendary bomb to Santana Moss in the Playoff game four years ago as proof he has made the long throw once in his mediocre stay as Jet Qb.
Now thats a stretch. I can't remember anyone bashing Coles or Cotchery this year for Clemens struggles. Ask anyone and they'll likely say that McCarrians and Smith are terrible receivers no matter who's throwing them the ball. Case in point the NE game when Pennington probably threw the prettiest pass he threw all year to McCarrians in the back of the endzone. (bar maybe the Cincy Coles pass) Receivers were a problem for both guys, and Clemens was without Coles at times which unquestionably hurt the guy.
Yes, actually discussing real throws is a lot more frivilous than parroting what you read here, I understand. After all, what do the throws he actually makes have to do with his arm, right? We could talk about him coming off the bench cold after six weeks on 3rd and 18 and completing a deep out in the wind in New England right on the money, but you've all decided he can't throw 5 yards, so why discuss the throws?
You still don't get it. We are rebuilding and we are not going to Win next year either. KC should get a full year with a fixed line to be evaluated. Once we find out if he can or can not do the job then the Qb Decision should be made. Kc might not be the answer but Chad is definitely not the answer. Kc went 3-4 with a swiss cheese lines and receivers dropping passes all over the place. If we had decent receivers and a play book designed for a Qb with an Nfl line he could have easily beaten Baltimore and Cleveland. You keep talking about the best chance to win. We are rebuilding. You have the best chance to win when a team that can compete for a Championship is put on the field. That takes years not an off season. It is time to trade Chad for a 4th or 5th rd pick before it is to late. Our best chance to win theory lost us a chance at Mcfadden, Both Longs, Dorsey and a chance to trade down for more picks in the Draft! If Chad gave us the best chance to win please explain why he was 1-9 and Kellen was 3-4 and actually beat a Playoff team?
