a quick note of history here for you youngans is the feeling that a 2-14, 3-13 team is usually at rock bottom and once their dreadful season ends the overhaul begins - usually with the head coach, coordinators and possibly the GM..... well i do not foresee most of that happeneing with the jets, but a change at DC may help - though the schemes will not change under mangini so its not a big change, per say. now recall the pats 1st year under belichek, i believe they were 5-11 and had a top ten pick in the next draft. their 1st pick was seymour out of georgia (#6 or 7) and he immediately gave their DL a bolster as a rookie and its history from there. the point here is that DL, ie DT or DE, is one of those positions on defense that can make a difference for a front 7 and have a very positive impact with the entire team. the other spot is OLB - whether a 3-4 or 4-3 - and the jets have seen that in the past with abraham. with chris long in the mix in this years top 10, or likely top 6-7 i can see him having an impact for a team similar to what seymour had with the pats when they hit bottom.. bottom line the jets are going defensive front 7 with their 1st pick and if they stay put in the top 10 its likely going to be long or gholston. jil
the difference is, Seymour was a perfect fit for their 34, Long doesn?t fit ours. if there would be a richard seymour in this years draft, we wouldn?t talk that much about McFadden
Seymour had like 15-30 pounds on him when he was drafted. I think the closest to a Seymour in this draft is Balmer or Moore...and I'm not sure either is the prospect Seymour was...but sometimes the combine can change that stuff. Both are excellent two gap players.
The only thing Seymour and Long have in common is that they both play DE. Seymour is around 30 pounds bigger, and is one of the most talented, athletic and versatile linemen in the NFL, Chris Long is a 4-3 end, I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand.
Maybe because people like Kiper say stuff like this... 3. Chris Long, DE, Virginia (6-4, 282) | Previous: Same A 3-4 defensive end with great bloodlines who understands leverage and uses his hands as well as any D-lineman in the country.
Or McShay says this: 5. New England Patriots (14-0) (from 4-10 S.F) -- Chris Long, DE, Virginia Outside of McFadden, there isn't a player I value more in the 2008 class than Long. He plays the game with rare passion and nearly flawless technique, making him an ideal fit for coach Bill Belichick's 3-4 scheme in New England. Long is able to control blockers, disengage and make big play after big play. The fact that he finished the regular season with 14 sacks playing in a 3-4 defense speaks volumes in regards to his talent and motor.
At # 6 the following players will be gone: 1. Dorsey 2. McFadden 3. Long (either one) 4. Long (the other one) 5. someone else Winning today moved us from # 3 to # 6 in a four man draft.
some of you folks need to re-read the inital post on this thread before voicing your opinions........ i am trying to make a general analogy between the jets of this year and the pats of several years ago......... in fact, several teams over the years have selected a high 1st round pick along the defensive front seven which gave them a foundation to build on leading them out of the bottom of the barrell and into repsectability. look at the bills with bruce smith look at the bucs with sapp look at the eagles with simon look at the pats with seymour and i am sure there are other examples as well. forget about 3-4/4-3...if a guy is that talented, he will flourish regardless of the alignment - especially along the front line. come to think of it, i am not quite sure why THIS is hard to understand..... jil
