I read several places that the strength of schedule is determined from the PREVIOUS season. Since your strength of schedules keep changing each week is the previous season referring to the season just before the draft? or the seasons before? Sorry the question is confusing but can you clarify if possible.
I think it means this year as '07 will be the previous year compared to '08 draft. Just look up the '06 SOS with the '07 draft order and you'll know one way or the other.
strength of schedule is the current season. No other way would make sense. It's ranked by 2007 record, and the tiebreaker is 2007 strength of schedule.
So we need the : bengals to beat the dolphins 9ers to beat the browns dallas to beat the redskins saints to beat the bears packers to beat the lions vikes to beat the broncos colts to beat the titans To have any shot at the 2nd pick................ with out the rams winning.
Updated order after Week 16.......1 more to go!!!!!!! Look at how close Jets and Atlanta are: UPDATED 2008 1st-ROUND DRAFT: SELECTION ORDER December 25, 2007 (Ed. note: Selection order based on current record and combined W-L record of all opponents.) # Team W-L Opponents' W-L % 1 Miami 1-14 .533 2 St. Louis 3-12 .513 3 New York Jets 3-12 .525 4 Atlanta 3-12 .529 5 Kansas City 4-11 .508 6 Oakland 4-11 .513 7 Baltimore 4-11 .517 8 New England (from San Francisco) 5-10 .467 9 Cincinnati 6-9 .458 10 Denver 6-9 .525 11 Carolina 6-9 .533 12 Chicago 6-9 .554 13 Arizona 7-8 .438 14 New Orleans 7-8 .475 15 Buffalo 7-8 .508 16 Houston 7-8 .521 17 Detroit 7-8 .542 18 Philadelphia 7-8 .575 19 Minnesota 8-7 .500 20 Washington 8-7 .563 21 Tennessee 9-6 .500 22 Dallas (from Cleveland) 9-6 .425 23 Tampa Bay 9-6 .467 24 Seattle 10-5 .404 25 Pittsburgh 10-5 .442 26 San Diego 10-5 .500 27 New York Giants 10-5 .513 28 Jacksonville 11-4 .517 29 Green Bay 12-3 .471 30 San Francisco (from Indianapolis) 13-2 .508 31 Dallas 13-2 .492 32 New England (pick forfeited) 15-0 .467
would you mind giving us a little outlook on what could happen? where could we fall if we win, 7? and could we get to #2 if we loose?
I think it is a virtual lock that the Jets fall from 3 to 7 with a win over the Chiefs, barring some real upsets in week 17. It is not likely that Atlanta, Oakland, or Baltimore win this week, and the Jets SOS is too high.
teams that can't change their positions are expected to rest starters (JAX, DAL, IND, TB, SEA, Giants, GB), so there could be some interesting results in Week 17. Atlanta is favored by 3 over the Seahawks. Pittsburgh is a 3.5 point favorite over Baltimore. It's too bad they still have the 3 seed to play for. Same for San Diego. Tough break for us that Oakland and Baltimore play teams that have something to play for.
Miami has # 1 locked up. If we win, we drop below ATL, OAK, BALT, and KC (except for KC they will all lose for sure) and pick # 7 even if STL wins. If STL (at ARZ) wins and we lose, we get the # 2 pick. If STL and Jets both lose we pick # 3.
it's very simple. Right now our SoS is the strongest of the teams involved. Unless that changes in Week 17 (Atlanta can catch us), we lose the tiebreaker to everyone. We're in a tie with Atlanta and St. Louis, so if we win, we would fall behind them. Baltimore, Oakland, and KC are all in the 4 win group. If we win and Baltimore and Oakland lose, we drop to 7.
i know we all would like the higher pick which makes for some great and not so great speculation from now until april but...... i have been told by no less than 4 different team scouting people that there are several teams that hate to be up in the top 5 of the draft. there is just too much pressure up there for everyone - the players, the teams, etc etc. they would rather sit at positions 16-22 or 23 and pick the inevitable value that drops every year out of the top 10-15. its also alot cheaper and easier to maneuver down and even up a few slots if there is that guy who fits. of course, the jets will win sunday and likely get in the 7-8 hole to put a psychological damper on all the wacko fans on these boards. jil
Week 16 NFL Draft Order Code: Pick Team Wins Losses Win % Opp Win % Division Record Conference Record 1 MIA 1 14 0.067 0.533 0.000 0.091 2 ATL 3 12 0.200 0.513 0.143 0.182 3 STL 3 12 0.200 0.513 0.200 0.273 4 NYJ 3 12 0.200 0.525 0.333 0.273 5 KC 4 11 0.267 0.508 0.333 0.273 6 OAK 4 11 0.267 0.513 0.400 0.364 7 BAL 4 11 0.267 0.517 0.000 0.091 8 SF 5 10 0.333 0.467 0.500 0.333 9 CIN 6 9 0.400 0.458 0.500 0.455 10 DEN 6 9 0.400 0.525 0.500 0.500 11 CAR 6 9 0.400 0.533 0.400 0.545 12 CHI 6 9 0.400 0.554 0.333 0.273 13 ARI 7 8 0.467 0.454 0.500 0.364 14 NO 7 8 0.467 0.475 0.500 0.545 15 BUF 7 8 0.467 0.508 0.667 0.500 16 HOU 7 8 0.467 0.521 0.000 0.364 17 DET 7 8 0.467 0.542 0.600 0.364 18 PHI 7 8 0.467 0.575 0.333 0.417 19 MIN 8 7 0.533 0.500 0.500 0.500 20 WAS 8 7 0.533 0.563 0.400 0.545 21 CLE 9 6 0.600 0.425 0.500 0.583 22 TB 9 6 0.600 0.467 1.000 0.727 23 TEN 9 6 0.600 0.500 0.600 0.545 24 SEA 10 5 0.667 0.404 0.833 0.727 25 PIT 10 5 0.667 0.442 1.000 0.636 26 SD 10 5 0.667 0.500 0.800 0.727 27 NYG 10 5 0.667 0.513 0.500 0.583 28 JAX 11 4 0.733 0.517 0.400 0.727 29 GB 12 3 0.800 0.471 0.600 0.727 30 DAL 13 2 0.867 0.492 0.800 0.909 31 IND 13 2 0.867 0.508 1.000 0.818 32 NE 15 0 1.000 0.467 1.000 1.000 * If teams have identical Win %, Opponent Win %, Division Records and Conference Records, the order is subject to a coin flip. ** New England must forfeit their first round pick if they make the playoffs. *** San Francisco owns Indianapolis's first round pick, New England owns San Francisco's first round pick and Dallas owns Cleveland's first round pick.
Rambo............You may want to check post 205, I put up the other day...........I believe that's the accurate one. I got from GBN, they are always spot on. Most all other draft orders have the Jets at #3, with Atl behind us in One Game Of SOS.
The discrepancy probably lies in the calculation. I calculate my S.O.S. based on all 16 opponents. I'm sure they calculated based on the 15 played thus far. For example, they would not factor in Kansas City's 4 wins and 11 losses for the Jets or Arizona's 7 wins and 8 losses for the Rams or Seattle's 10 wins and 5 losses for the Falcons.
Week 16 NFL Draft Order Code: Pick Team Wins Losses Win % Opp Win % Division Record Conference Record 1 MIA 1 14 0.067 0.533 0.000 0.091 2 STL 3 12 0.200 0.513 0.200 0.273 3 NYJ 3 12 0.200 0.525 0.333 0.273 4 ATL 3 12 0.200 0.529 0.167 0.182 5 KC 4 11 0.267 0.508 0.333 0.273 6 OAK 4 11 0.267 0.513 0.400 0.364 7 BAL 4 11 0.267 0.517 0.000 0.091 8 SF 5 10 0.333 0.467 0.500 0.333 9 CIN 6 9 0.400 0.458 0.500 0.455 10 DEN 6 9 0.400 0.525 0.500 0.500 11 CAR 6 9 0.400 0.533 0.400 0.545 12 CHI 6 9 0.400 0.554 0.333 0.273 13 ARI 7 8 0.467 0.438 0.400 0.364 14 NO 7 8 0.467 0.475 0.500 0.545 15 BUF 7 8 0.467 0.508 0.667 0.500 16 HOU 7 8 0.467 0.521 0.000 0.364 17 DET 7 8 0.467 0.542 0.600 0.364 18 PHI 7 8 0.467 0.575 0.333 0.417 19 MIN 8 7 0.533 0.500 0.500 0.500 20 WAS 8 7 0.533 0.563 0.400 0.545 21 CLE 9 6 0.600 0.425 0.500 0.583 22 TB 9 6 0.600 0.467 1.000 0.727 23 TEN 9 6 0.600 0.500 0.600 0.545 24 SEA 10 5 0.667 0.404 0.833 0.727 25 PIT 10 5 0.667 0.442 1.000 0.636 26 SD 10 5 0.667 0.500 0.800 0.727 27 NYG 10 5 0.667 0.513 0.500 0.583 28 JAX 11 4 0.733 0.517 0.400 0.727 29 GB 12 3 0.800 0.471 0.600 0.727 30 DAL 13 2 0.867 0.492 0.800 0.909 31 IND 13 2 0.867 0.508 1.000 0.818 32 NE 15 0 1.000 0.467 1.000 1.000 * If teams have identical Win %, Opponent Win %, Division Records and Conference Records, the order is subject to a coin flip. ** New England must forfeit their first round pick if they make the playoffs. *** San Francisco owns Indianapolis's first round pick, New England owns San Francisco's first round pick and Dallas owns Cleveland's first round pick.
I accidentally had Arizona playing Arizona and Atlanta playing Atlanta in week 16. As you can see ( I left my original error up for comparison sake ) the only things that changed were the opponent win - loss records for those two teams. This had a 0.016 swing in each teams opponent SOS which dropped Atlanta back to their appropriate spot. Thanks WW.
Rambo.....No....Thank you, I appreciate your hard work. Hard to believe it comes down to one game and the Jets can move up to #2 of fall as far as #7 in one week. I have a feeling the Jets are going to win, but maybe ATL(Seattle nothing to play for and their a terrible traveling team to the east coast). Oakland may win, since SD may sit alot of starters. My Best Guess the Jets get a #5 or at worst #6.
