i pretty much agree on everything said so far, having a consistent football team starts with a good offensive line and everything else on offense will fall into place, look at the vikings, browns, packers, all teams plagued by poor line play previously, shored it up in the offseason, now thery are going to the playoffs, fact of the matter is that if we dont get guards that can push the dline backwards, we have no chance, and we might waste a potentially good talent in kellen clemens, i see the early symptoms of the the david carr syndrome, hopefully our front office scientists can find an antidote before its too late
...that's exactly what I said. David Carr attempted to stand in the pocket and make throws his first two years in Houston, but no one can stand in pocket and complete a pass with less than three seconds to throw each snap. That is an actual stat -- Carr has less than 3 seconds to get rid of the ball as a rookie. Getting hit that much would mess when any quarterback's head. If you had ever played the position, you'd know. Pass rush is a quarterback's worst enemy. and when Carr had time to throw, he was actually pretty accurate, he just didn't get too many opportunities in Houston to watch a play develop.
Our O-Line I feel so mixed about our O Line sometimes it looks so bad but never as bad as the 2005 O Line I feel they are a couple good players away from being a great O Line.
like alan faneca and jake long at LT, d'brick to RT and we'll keep moore and mangold? that might work, but i dont see our FO paying a lot for faneca even though it woulf be worth every penny (see steve hutchinson)
he doesn't get sacked anywhere clsoe to the rate DC got saced at and alot of KC's sacks have to do w/ him holding the ball which is why KC's sack rate is so much higher than Chad's w/ the same OL.
don't think brick has the power to be a good RT. He is a finesse guy, better suited to the left side. I think he has done better against DEs this year. He has problems bocking LBs on blitzes and such. And he isn't much of a run blocker. Faneca is not a biig powerful guard, which I agree is what we need. I have been talking about elephant guards for some time. The jet short yardaqe game is crap. We need to blow teams off the ball. Bender can run block. I guess he is either too dumb or too raw as a pass blocker to get it done.
This is going to sound crazy but I don't want Clemens to get in the habit of checking off early like Chad does. That is how Chad avoids sacks. It doesn't put points on the board. There has to be a happy median. Sometimes you just have to stand in and take the lick, especially on third and long. If Clemens is curling up early then that is not good. But I have not seen much of that. I have seen him on his ass a whole lot. As we all know, a QB who gets hit all the time, even if he is not being sacked all the time, usually is on the losing end. See Tom Brady vs Jets regular season last year.
Good point on the not checking off too soon. Only QB's on very good teams can afford to be as careful as Chad is and then they become limiting factors sooner or later as the competition gets tougher in the playoffs.
I agree that this is something to be worried about. I noticed that since his first games against the ravens and then the redskins where he looked great, he has become much more afraid to stay in the pocket and gets antsy very quickly. I can't blame him. This fucking line is awful. I hope it doesnt stay with him though. I really think that he has the tools to be a great QB. He looked great early on. How quickly people forget.
Why would we move D'Brick for the less athletic Long? Especially when D'Brick has been and probably will always be the better pass blocker?
When did he ever look GREAT?? -- I think the people with short memories are the ones that believe this folly.
Looking like you might be able to be an average NFL QB and looking Great are two totally different things. The Jury is still out on Clemens but in no way , shape or form as he ever looked GREAT... at least by my definition of the term.
I may be a little too high on him then I should be based on results so far but it's only because I really like his demeanor. He seems to be very poised and intelligent. I think most QB's suffer either from being stupid (Kerry Collins), lacking physical tools (Chad Pennington), or lacking confidence (Eli Manning). He appears to have those 3 things.
So you're better off getting sacked on third and long to create fourth and longer, than to check down to a short pass and either get some yardage back for the kicking game or maybe even have the guy run for a first down? Sound football right there. For as mobile as Clemens is, he's taking too many sacks. There are some he can't help, but a lot that he can. He's not an old man with bad legs, he should at least get out of the way, even if he doesn't take off and run for a long gain. He was scrambling effectively when he first came in, but not in recent weeks.
