No, Testaverde was injured in Week 1 of 1999. The poster was saying he was extremely disappointed with the 1999 season based on the promising 1998 season. Here's how bothered I was about the early part of the 1999 season: http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=327700&postcount=158
As stated earlier this is my opinion from what I saw and from the changes that were made in the off season. So for me the years you are talking of pale in comparison. Maybe its because those years I knew we sucked so I had lower expectations. I thought this year with a new running game that we would see some improvement.
richard todds interception fiesta in miami during the mud bowl, is way up there on my list. gastineau's roughing the passer sucked but we should have won that game many times after that play.
Bad game , but season had its ups and downs. I was just picking the ones in the last 20 years that are still fresh in memory. Kotite years are up there but I had to choose between them and the ones that I did. But I would definetly have added it if their had been 5 spots.
yea the kotite year was def the worst. It was like we were a college team out there. when dennis byrd got hurt hung a dark cloud over the team as well, regardless of the record
From these choices '99 was the most difficult b/c we were a SB favorite before all the injuries, this year i think has been the worst b/c we have been pertty healthy and stunk which hasn't happened in a long time around here.
It always hurts longer when they're good and come close, like 1982-83 and 1998-99, because it's so rare we even get that far. But the worst years to go through are the 4-12s when the games don't matter all year, like this year. You at least want exciting big games somewhere along the way. To me 1995 was the darkest year, even though the record was worse in 1996. By 96 we were actually a little better than 95 and the games were better, plus we knew Kotite would be a goner. In 95 he just got there, and you could only hope against hope that this wasn't going to be what it looked like. But is was and it did. Experiments with playing guys out of position at key positions against Pro Bowl players, piss poor game management, you name it. I remember 1976 being bad with Lou Holtz, but it couldn't have been much darker than 1995.
I sited the 1-15 year, but really the entire Kotite era was our lowest point. Kotite would struggle as a Pop-Warner coach.
I agree about '95 being worse than '96, at least in '96 we were in games and lost in an entertaining fashion.
'95 and '96 were the years that should never have been. Several things from those seasons stand out as monuments to not only the incompetence of the franchise, but as marks of stupidity and mismanagement for every sport. $80 million spent on free agents in '96, we set the standard for how not to handle the new era of free agency in the league. Drafting a TE in the top 10 when it was somewhere below long snapper and waterboy on the list of needs. The Bubby Brister shovel pass to Sam Mills in a game we had won, giving a horrible expansion Panthers team its first win in 7 tries (I was at that game, bad memories) The coach who didn't quit, but wasn't fired (I never figured that one out) still today, just the name Kotite is synonymous around the league with incompetence in coaching. No matter how bad your team is, everybody knows it could be worse (although Cameron in Miami is getting there) Just give me the damn ball, and watch me take off my helmet and run around the field acting like he had won the friggin Superbowl when he finally caught a touchdown. Our savior, Neil O'donnell, in his first game as a Jet vs the Broncos, sacked 12 times before finally being mercifully yanked for Brister. (Edit: actually, it was Frank Reich, my bad) And of course, when he was supposed to come back, but injured his ankle doing pre-game warm up stretches. Boomer getting his head taken off by Bruce Smith because some dumbass OT (Everett McKiver) was talking trash to Smith. Poor Boomer. Kordell Stewart's backup at Colorado, QB Vance Joseph, converted to cornerback and asked to come in with no game experience whatsoever and start in a prime-time game covering Tim Brown. Ask me how that went over. That may go down as the stupidest coaching move of all time. Dexter Carter. David Williams and "baby-gate" Chrebet has somewhere around 170yds recieving on, I think, 14 receptions vs Jacksonville...and again, we lose to an expansion team anyway. Murrell had to rush for 199 just so we could beat the worst franchise of the '90s in Arizona. Johnny Mitchell. Only highlights from that time being Chrebet, and beating the Kosar-led Dolphins in '95. Cause no matter how bad we suck, its still the fish :lol: You know, give me all night to consider this and I may be able to fill up a couple of pages.
Some corrections- Babygate happened while Williams was a member of the Houston Oilers. Chrebet had 162 yards receiving against Jacksonville, but in the 1996 season. The Jets defeated Jacksonville in 1995. Also, I am thinking O'Donnell was not sacked 12 times in Denver.
Personally, with the expectations going into this year I would have to say yes (but I've only been a fan since 97, started really paying attention in 2000, so....:drunk: )
Yes....You guys should go back and look at those rosters....The Coslet years as well, check out the players we had then.....
I know Chrebet's great game vs Jville was in '96, but they were still an expansion team, point being how he could do that well and we still lost. (I was listening to that game on the radio driving to Canton OH that afternoon for a trip to the HOF, so I remember it well) And yeah, it was 12 sacks. I was watching the game with my best friend, a Denver fan, in a sports bar. The crap I caught from him over my pre-game bragging about having "a Superbowl quarterback" :sad:
