from the dalynews-rich cimini- COACH TALK: The rumor mill is churning with potential coaching changes around the league. One to watch: Longtime Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin will be a free agent, and there's speculation he may go to the Raiders to work under his son, Lane Kiffin. How would that affect the Jets? If Kiffin goes to Oakland, it presumably would free up Raiders coordinator Rob Ryan, who is extremely close to Mangini. Hmmm. i would love me some rob ryan coaching our defense....
Adding Rob Ryan as defensive coordinator could be every bit as valuable as any free agent signing or draft pick.
I realize the Jets haven't been particularly good at it, but hasn't the team been stockpiling players for the 3-4? Are we giving up hope on the 3-4 already?
Stockpiling players? We signed Coleman, who is a mediocre starter, really more suited as a 3rd DE in the rotation.... We drafted Harris.... We re-signed Thomas... But he was drafted to play the 4-3 anyway... Anyone else we brought in specifically for the 3-4?
The less input that Manduh has with the defensive the better off we are going to be. That shmo couldn’t even coach a defense at New England.
My only question is what does Ryan preach 3-4 or 4-3? because if Mangini is dead set on 3-4 and Ryan is a 4-3 guy, don't get to excited...
No blowing Mangini when he gets us a championship. Its official, you gave up in year 2. I am saving your post buddy
That would be great. We need to replace Sutton, he's in over his head. I'd like him, or Greg Williams (i think the skins are going to change there staff this offseason), who I thought we should have hire 3 years ago.
rob ryan is a 3-4 deciple!!!! coached under bill billichek. he was a better defensive coordinator than mangina is, for sure.......
Here's a little bit about him from the Raiders website Rob Ryan job titleDefensive Coordinator Years on Team Rob Ryan is in his fourth year as Raiders defensive coordinator. Ryan oversaw a defense that in 2006 led the NFL in pass defense and ranked third in the league in total defense. The Raiders defense under Ryan in 2006 also ranked fourth in the NFL in fewest yards allowed per play, fifth in defense inside the 20, fifth (tie) in defensive touchdowns (4), and fifth in net passing yards per play. Ryan?s defensive schemes in 2006 also helped Derrick Burgess record 12 sacks and play in his second straight Pro Bowl and Warren Sapp record 10 sacks, an NFL high for defensive tackles. In addition, the defensive schemes helped Nnamdi Asomugha post a career high eight interceptions in 2006. The 2005 Raiders defense featured the NFL's leading sack artist, DE Derrick Burgess, who chalked up 16 quarterback sacks and a Pro Bowl invitation. Before joining the Raiders, the 21-year coaching veteran spent four seasons as linebackers coach on Bill Belichick's New England Patriots coaching staff. Ryan's linebacking corps contributed to the Patriots posting victories in Super Bowls XXXVI and XXXVIII. The 44-year-old Ryan is the son of National Football League defensive coaching legend Buddy Ryan. The younger Ryan has previous experience as a defensive coordinator at the college level, having served in that capacity at Oklahoma State from 1997-99 and at Hutchinson Community College in 1996. In 2003, Ryan's linebacking corps helped the Patriots defense rank first in the NFL in fewest points allowed (238) while ranking seventh overall in the NFL in total defense. Ryan's unit also contributed to one of the best scoring defenses in franchise history in 2001, as the Patriots allowed just 17 points per game and produced Pro Bowlers Willie McGinest and Tedy Bruschi. Ryan originally entered the NFL coaching ranks in 1994 as defensive backs coach on his father's staff at the Arizona Cardinals. He also coached Cardinals cornerbacks and safeties in 1995. With Ryan as his position coach, cornerback Aeneas Williams earned two trips to the Pro Bowl as a member of the Cardinals in 1994 and 1995. In 1995, the Cardinals 32 interceptions and 42 total takeaways led the NFL. The 1994 Cardinals were ranked second in the NFL total defense, second in run defense, and third in pass defense. From 1997-99, Ryan was Oklahoma State's defensive coordinator, where the Cowboys defense was continually ranked among the best in the nation. In 1999, they were ranked 10th in the nation in total defense. In 1998, they were second in the nation with 41 sacks. In his first season at Oklahoma State, the Cowboys defense finished among the nation's Top 20 in turnover margin, rushing defense, scoring defense and total defense, allowing just 302.7 yards per game. It was an over 100-yard improvement per game from the year before and helped the Cowboys produce an 8-4 mark and an Alamo Bowl berth. He began his coaching career as an assistant at Western Kentucky in 1987 and then coached outside linebackers at Ohio State in 1988. Ryan then spent five seasons at Tennessee State, where he coached running backs (1989-91), linebackers (1992) and the defensive line (1993). He served as defensive coordinator at Hutchinson Community College in 1996, where they led the nation in total defense (228 yards per game) and in sacks (56). His defense also set a national record by forcing 49 turnovers. Ryan played three seasons as an outside linebacker at Southwestern Oklahoma State. His twin brother, Rex, is defensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens. The Ryan family includes wife Kristin, three children - sons Joseph and Matthew and daughter Dimitra.
The more I hear, the more this scenario seems like one of the best things that could happen this offseason.
Agreed, II. Saw him on an interview on NFL Network once ---- really dont get the impression he is interested in the pressure of a HC yet. But who knows if its the right time, right team, etc.
if he was to come here, i'd like to wait on Vilma and see if he can find a creative way to involve him. if he knows right off the bat that he can't find a place for Vilma to excel, then fine, trade him. but i'd rather here it from Ryan than Sutton or Mangini.
On the same from it's possible that he'll better be able to turn out D into the hybrid D that was originally preached to us rather than the 3-4 that's more than a bit forced considering our personnel.