wow! He could be a sleeper pick in the draft if he comes out this year.... 319 yards and 4 TDS today...
24K will, more likely then not, be staying one more year. Obviously once a few agents hint at the the money he could be in for his opinion may change.. O'Leary, 24K, and his mom are going to be looking into Insurance options at the end of the season. Smith is on record as saying he would "probably" listen to whatever Coach thinks is right...and GOL wants him back. He's broken every single school rushing record, including all-rushing.. and he has a year left. In a RB heavy draft like this year, he is better off staying around one more year. Next year, he will be mentioned more in Heisman talks, he'll get his Miami homecoming when we play UM... a chance to beat USF at home[Ok, that one is for me] but even bigger then that.. a 1500+ yard season will place FOURTH all time in NCAA rushing... All of that, plus NFL scouts already saying he may be a better NFL back then Dmac screams high 1st round draft pick in 09. The kid's pretty good. I'm just saying..
I think Smith is a good player too, but who care's if he broke all of UCF's records...they were once a very pitiful team and they still aren't very good. I hope he dominates next year and gets some Heisman recognition from a lesser-known school like UCF, but he won't win. Reesing is only a Sophomore this year at Kansas, CJ Spiller will lead a very talented Clemson team, and Stafford from Georgia will look to lead UGA to the SEC title. Those are my favorites for next year's Heisman.
I'm not saying he should win heisman... I was joking in the other thread. I just want people to talk about him.
I hope he comes back next year, but all those carries, and then all that money... we'll see. On another note, UCF wins the next two and the C-USA Championship Game comes to Orlando!
To start, 1. yes I am a bit of a homer, but the stats do say something.. 2. I'm not trying to argue with you on this really, of all the people that post in the NCAA forum I like your takes on almost every topic whether I agree or not. With that being said, Mcfadden winning it is expected, my beef is with Hart and Rice. Don't tell me DMC has played top level competition. DMC and KS have both played poor rushing defenses. Neither of them played any top 10 defenses. Top 40 rushing defenses faced Smith 2 McFadden 2 Below 90 rushing defenses faces Smith 4 McFadden 6 Kevin has more yards, higher YPC, more TDs, more receiving yards on less catches, and has played [on average, tougher run defenses] then DMC. Smith put up the best numbers of the whole entire bunch...I'm not saying he should win but he should be in there over Hart. Do you think Hart has earned the right to be in the top 3? Total Touchdowns Smith 25 Rice 12 Hart 18 Mcfadden 13 (16 if you include the TD passes) 100 yard games Smith 10 Rice 8 Hart 8 McFadden 8 150 yard games Smith 7 Rice 5 Hart 4 McFadden 4 200 yard games Smith 2 Rice 1 Hart 1 McFadden 1 300 yard games Smith 1 McFadden 1 Rushing yards (game) Smith 176.82 Rice 146.55 McFadden 138.09 Hart 136.89
I like Kevin Smith and I've watched Smith and Joe Burnett through out their careers at UCF. They both have the ability to play at the next level... All of their stats do compare, but McFadden plays in the SEC, which is the BEST conference in college football. Conference USA is towards the bottom in terms of the talent level of its players. The teams in the SEC play against players of a much higher caliber. Of course no one in C-USA is going to have a top 10 run defense -- most of those teams are garbage. Every team in the SEC had and plays against TOP talent for the most part of their season. When Smith played against South Florida -- a team on the rise, which is also in a pretty good confernce (Big East) -- Smith had 3.1 yards per carry. There's a reason why McFadden plays for an SEC team and Smith plays for a C-USA team - They aren't on the same talent level. I hope Smith stays and runs for big yards and is considered for post season awards next season. 330 carries for 1,945 yards 5.9 YPC 24 TDs Ridiculous rushing stats by Smith, but he plays in a weak conference against weak teams -- look for him to break 2,000 during the next game.
Bad game against South Florida, but he also ran for 149 and 2 TDs against Texas. Point is, he should be there above Hart. Hart isn't even the best RB in the Big Ten, let alone top 3 in the nation. Thats why it's a joke and just a big popularity contest.
Hart won a lot of games for Michigan though and they have a much bigger fan base. Of course the big school guy is going to be ahead of Kevin Smith. Mike Hart is a senior leader on a team that struggled early on...and he put them on his shoulders and they started winning again. The only reason he isn't "the best running back in the Big Ten" is because he was injured pretty early in the season and has had to miss a lot of time. Hart deserves to be on that list just as much as anyone else.
That is a silly statement. Randy Moss and Jason Taylor played in the MAC And UCF has 13 players in the NFL right now. USF has 6. Vandy has 8 Kentucky has 6 I could go further if you like...
What you just said was much more "silly", not to mention queer because you used to word "silly". Well everyone knew Randy Moss was awesome -- he was just a trouble maker...even in high school. That's why he had to go to Marshall -- which wasn't the in the MAC then. He actually signed an LOI to play for Notre Dame, but he got in a fight and entered a guilty plea for battery...and then, he signed with Florida State (another big time school). During his redshirt freshman season, Moss tested positive for marijuan and was kicked off the team...and then he transferred to Marshall, a D-IAA school AT THE TIME (not the MAC). He dominated at Marshall and has been doing it ever since. I could go further if you like... There's always going to be players that come out of small schools and have great pro careers. Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, and Rod Smith are all prime examples. I could go further if you like... Florida, who is in the SEC, has AT LEAST 25 players in the NFL -- wow, that almost doubles UCF. LSU has around 18-20. South Carolina has at least 10. All SEC schools. Kenctucky and Vandy are cheap examples because 1. Vandy hasn't been to a bowl game since '83, so you know they're at the bottom of the conference and 2. Kentucky has, for the most part been at the bottom of the SEC, with Vandy for a long time, but they did have Tim Couch (I know he's a bust now, but he did go #1 overall, something someone out of C-USA will NEVER do). I could go on further if you like...
Ummm...Marshall was in the MAC when Moss played. And your contention was that if a player plays for a major school, he must be better. And what is your beef with CUSA? It has only been around since 1995, so 12 years is not alot to base your argument on...
C-USA has nothing on the SEC and it's ridiculous to compare defenses between the two conferences...that was my first argument. McFadden is the better player, he was the highly recruited and he plays for a mediocre team in the best conference in football. Marshall was a D-IAA school Moss' first year there, he set all sorts of I-AA records -- then they converted to the MAC which he and Pennington dominated...my bad for getting my years mixed up, but Moss still started off in D-IAA
So UCF taking a Big 12 defense to the mat was fictional? Or beating an ACC team? Bama beat Tennesee and lost to LA-Monroe...
The problem with this argument is that it is just one game instead of most of the schedule, they may play really well in one game but to endure for an entire conference slate makes comparing numbers from the SEC difficult from the C-USA
Its hard to build hype in the C-USA, if there was hype early like Colt Breenan early on it is one thing, but coming from nothing is almost impossible.
That's the point I'm trying to make...there's not doubt in my mind that Kevin Smith has a ton of talent, but he doesn't play against the same level of competition during conference play like Darren McFadden does.
Look at Todd Reesing in the Big 12, he's having a stellar year, on an undefeated team and he still isn't getting much hype. It's hard to build a Heisman campaign when you're coming out of no where.
