Breaking News: A-Rod to Opt Out

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    We lost because we were facing Carmona and not Sabathia who gave up 3 runs in game 1. Like I said and only you could see it any other way, if Pettitte pitches game 1 we win and he also pitches game 4. It's all on Clueless Joe.
     
  2. Don

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    Now this is pretty funny. The Yankees way of getting something out of Arod leaving.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/11072007/sports/yankees/he_might_be_stay_rod_526384.htm

    When asked last weekend if the Yanks would offer arbitration to Rodriguez, GM Brian Cashman said, “of course." But the idea was not based on retaining A-Rod. Cashman thought there was little possibility Rodriguez would accept a one-year deal.

    It is about the two draft picks," Cashman said. “By offering arbitration, we get the first-round pick of the team that signs him and a sandwich pick."


    The even funnier part of it is he could accept.

    BTW, Chamberlain was a sandwich pick last year.
     
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  3. AlioTheFool

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    It will be interesting to see what his value is in arbitration.

    Here's the thing. This actually opens the door to ARod returning, regardless of what Cashman says.

    This could have been set up between Cashman and Boras over the past couple days in secret. Think about this, if ARod and the Yankees are "forced" to meet with an arbitrator, and during that meeting Alex says "Guys, look, I really want to stay with the Yankees. Can we work something out?" both sides come out clean.

    The Yankees would not be accused of going back on their word, since they were required to appear at arbitration, and Alex/Boras haven't willingly met with the Yankees without their number on the table. Everyone saves face, Alex gets his money, and the Yankees get their man back. It's win-win.
     
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    you love that A-rod man.
     
  5. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Yes I do. And I don't understand why more people don't. For a town that fell in love with that douchebag Reggie Jackson, I find it amazing that a player far more talented gets this much shit thrown at him.
     
  6. Barry the Baptist

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    I don't believe any GM that says they aren't interested.....
     
  7. dwalsh

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    Reggie Jackson got it done in the playoffs
     
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    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/07/boras-may-have-already-found-his-mark/
     
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    well for one thing, the last 90 world series winners have won without A-rod. Does he really need more money than theyankees offered him? or were going to offer had he at least been man enough to meet with them. Why are you so in love with a man that basically said "fuck you Alio"? Hes upset because he was booed for three years? This past year was a lovefest with him-he doesnt want to be here then fuck him....get off off his cock bro
     
  10. Don

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    Stupid question: Why does everyone think the Texas contribution is so godawfully important to the Yankees? Look at what they paid Pavano for his half dozen starts. Look at what they paid -- goodness gracious -- the Rocket for a mediocre half season. Look at the fact they paid their manager more than double the next highest paid guy.

    This is beer money to the Yankees. They paid about this much just for the privilege to speak with Kei Igawa for christs sake.

    I don't think the Yanks had any intention of giving A-rod an extension that would lock them into paying him $30 mill a year as he closes in on 40. And good for them.
     
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    That doesn't change the fact that he's a total asshole. I've actually met him, and it's not an exaggeration to call him a total asshole.

    Does he need more? Of course not. Does he deserve it? Yes.

    Funny that you're the one to make this comment now, but you're also the first one to tell me it's always about the money.

    Him not meeting with the Yankees was wrong. No question. But was it his decision, or Boras telling him to not do it?

    He never said "fuck you" to me. I love the guy for what he can do on a baseball field. I've never seen a single player as talented before, and there's a very good chance I never will again.

    Is he wrong for being upset at being booed? I'd say no. Opinions may vary.
     
  13. Don

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    You're right. The money means nothing to the Yankees. It's the principle of the thing. The Yankees and Boras were calling each other on a bluff. Boras opted out thinking the Yankees would blink and they haven't. Good for them. They knew full well that if they have to negotiate with Boras as one of many teams that he would use them to drive up the price and Arod would end up somewhere else anyway. They don't want to play that game and waste half the winter wondering who will be playing third base for them next spring.

    I'm sure Boras believes that if he were to go back to the Yankees with a contract showing a 30 million dollar discount in the first three years that the Yankees would take it. He wanted Arod to opt out to see what the market is. The mis-calculation on his part is that the Yankees will probably say stuff it. Arod may be perfectly happy to play in the NL or on the west coast and he may not. We will never know.

    On the other hand, the Yankees may realize that it's easier to just pay Arod then give up prospects for somebody like Cabrerra and agree. If they can't get a right handed power hitter to replace him they are in big trouble for at least a year or two until they can. After Arod the closest thing they have is Posada and he will never have another year like last year and he's a switch hitter to boot. They really need two as they never replaced Sheffield and Shelly Duncan just isn't going to get it done.
     
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    We had Sabathia on the ropes all night and couldn't knock him out, carmona was really good but did you notice how good both were against a clutch hitting team the next series?

    Wow! I can't believe what I am reading. You don't understand why more people don't love ARod? Maybe it's the fact that he can't hit in october?

    Why was Reggie a douchebag but not ARod? Reggie was a cocky guy, ARod's a cocky guy but at least Reggie wasn't calling out friends saying they had an easy job like ARod did to Jeter a few years ago and Reggie wasn't caught cheating on his Wife. The biggest difference btw reggie an Arod is that reggie actually had a personality.

    Oh and you want to know why reggie is loved and ARod is not?

    Reggie in october w the Yanks: 39-119, .327, 12 HR, 29 RBI, won 2 Championships, played in 3 WS

    Arod in october w/ the Yanks: 23-94, .245, 4 HR, 4 RBI, won zero Championsips, played in zero WS
     
  15. Don

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    Hmm...how do you knock him out when you have given up 12 runs?:breakdance:

    As far as Boston is concerned, in the 4 games they won they gave up a total of 8 runs. The same that Wang alone gave up in game 1. Wake up and face facts. We lost this year and every year since 2000 because our pitching sucked when we needed it most.
     
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    Cashman spoke to Damon yesterday and told him that he will definitely be back with the Yankees as the starting left fielder next year.

    I think that's a good move. It means Matsui will be a DH now. Matsui can hit, but his fielding is garbage. Hopefully this is a logical step toward getting rid of Giambi.
     
  17. Don

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    Yeah, I saw that. They need to play small ball next year and without Damon they have nobody but our old fat SS to lead off. I also read somewhere that most of Damon's injuries the past two year have come about because he has checked into camp out of shape. He has a winter workout program this year that everybody hopes will prevent that this year.

    BTW, that same article seemed to say Minky is gone and that they do want to resign Vizcaino now which is a switch in their position.
     
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    They didn't pull away until the 5th inning. After damon's leadoff HR we had 2 on in the 1st w/ 1 out and scored zero runs, in the 5th we had 1st and 2nd w/ 0 out then loaded bases w/ 1 out and we came away w/ a grand total of 1 run. Sabathia was not very good in game 1, we let him off the hook. After that inning Cle exploded for 5 and the game was over.

    Cleveland's hitting disappeared, the ONLY pitcher who was very good to grat for Boston was Becket. both Schilling Matsuzaka were very hittable, it was Cleveland's bats disappearing and Boston's emerging that won that series for Boston.

    In game 6 Boston had 10 runs by the 3rd inning, that sure makes it easy for your pitvcher to pitch well when he has 10 runs to work w/. in game 7 Boston got off to a quick 3 runs lead, that helps your SP relax. They still allowed Boston to cut it to 3-2 but then that Boston O exploded again and put them away. Boston won because they could hot when it mattered.
     
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    "our old fat SS":rofl: It just amazesme how you guys will bash Jeter after all he's done and praise ARod. it's pure comedy.
     
  20. Don

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    Boston won because they pitched when it mattered. Why do you think Cleveland's bats disappeared?
     

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