I'm still a little confused as to why Yankee fans want in Arod. Isn't 4 years of the most selfish player in baseball enough? The last 4 years would've been difficult to go through even if we had won a world series. It was excruciating. Sure, a lot of it is the media's fault, but Alex asked for that.
I don't know why you consider him to be selfish. What has he done that would make you say he's been selfish for 4 years? I can understand if you say the opt-out issue, but that's only the past couple weeks, not the past 4 years. Personally, I love the guy. He's the best all-around player in the game. He's the future home run king. He carried our team this past season. He took his lumps from the fans early, and still played his ass off all year.
I'm assuming that nobody listened to Colin Cowherd this morning. He had Peter Gammons on amd Gammons said there is no truth to the Arod to Met rumors and he said Boras likely already has a deal done. Gammons thinks either Anaheim or Detroit. He said Detroit has bailed Boras out on multiple occasions ie Pudge and Magglio Ordonez. He also said Cabrera to Dodgers and Crede to Yankees for Damon.
But I hardly see how holding an opinion such as this is worth making fun of junc. Some of his arguments, such as the running game being better with Chad than Clemens, are beyond explanation even with the incorporation of statistical evidence (for some reason), but the impact that Alex has had on the Yankees goes beyond statistics. Yes, he's the the best all-around player in the game, but I am really starting to see why he's now on his way to his 4th team at the age of 32. As much production as Alex offered to the club, he also offered a constant uneasy feeling in the clubhouse, a feeling of doubt amongst him teammates, coaches, and fans; and the mystical way in which he carried himself were all a cause of concern that backfire in this town. Although I do respect your opinion, I jerk back when I read your statements that you think the Yankees should give him a 10 year, 350 dollar contract right now!! If you're paying a player that much, he should be carrying you to championships with little regard to the rest of the roster. That's the level the contract is at. For all the hopes that we had for him, the only thing he showed in NY was that he was an all-time talent with the ability to carry a team through huge stretches and producing at historic proportions. But we already knew that when we traded for him. He's only solidified everything that we thought he was prior. That isn't good enough for a 35 million dollar player.
Yankees don't think Crede is worth Damon. Arod won't be going to Detroit but I see the Angels as being correct. They are the only team keeping quiet about it.
Some other team will be paying him that and they won't be going to the WS year after year either. That really isn't the point. If it takes two players to give you the same production that Arod does then you have limited your lineup by letting him go. If it takes two to replace him then you have to look at what those two are costing you combined. Hell, he had 173 HRs and 513 RBIs in 4 years all while being booed off the field most of the time. Throw in two MVPs and that isn't going to be replaced very easily.
There's a alight difference, we lost in the WORLD SERIES 2 of the 3 years before he got here while we have gone out in rd 1 each of the past 3 seasons. When will you get it that we can't hit in october led by the "greatest player ever"? Of course the pitchng hasn't been great but our offense has never been able to take the pressure off the pitching staff and we could have wo each series w/ just a few clutch hits which we never got. I have NEVER said it was all ARod, I have said tha he is MOST responsible b/c he is. He is our most talentd player and he's played like our least taleted player throughout the past 3 1/2 series. Of course ARod gets no lam nd it's all on Torre for starting our best starter in Game 1. it's also Joe's fault that ARod drove in 1 run in his last 16 postseason games. It just amazes me how you will knock winners like Joe and Jeter who led us to 4 Championships but give ARod a pass. There's no question jeter was awful this last series BUT that was an aberration. For ARod it's ben all but 1 1/2 seies where he's been awful and you keep saying how ARod had a better postseaon yet as bad as jeter was he still had as many RBi as ARod. Let's compare Jeter and ARod the last 3 series: Jeter: 18-54(.333), 8 Runs scored, 3 HR, 7 RBI ARod: 7-44(.159), 3 Runs scored, 1 HR, 1 RBI I just will never undestand how Yankee fans can bash Joe ad jeter and praise Arod. it makes absolutely no sense, I guess you guys like watching HRs in the reg season, I like wins in october. I didn't bring that up, others said Chad was holding back the running game and that Clemens would instantly help Jones get going- i proved it to be incorrect. As great as his reg season was you don't need historic seasons by a player to win. That was proven w/ our latest dynasty, it was collection of a few top players surrounded by great role players and they always came through when we needed them unlike this collection of All stars we have had the past few years. Matsuzaka has more RBI in 1 game than ARod has in his last 16 posteason games. It wo't be hard to get better production in october where it counts.
Okay, that's a fair explanation. In terms of his personality affecting the clubhouse, I don't know. He looked quite comfortable with the team this past year, but of course, that was only in-game, so we don't know about behind the scenes. If team chemistry improves without him, then you're obviously right. Based on what I saw last year with Melky and Cano with ARod, and his much improved relationship with Jeter, I don't think this was really an issue, but this is one where I could easily be way off. In terms of him carrying the team, he did what I would expect a $35M/year player to do last season. Carry the club through the regular season. A single player can help a team get through bad stretches in the regular season. During the course of the 162, a team will play more non-playoff level teams than teams that have potential to win it all. From April through September, you're going to see more than your fair share of average-to-poor starting pitching, as well as weak bullpens. In the playoffs, you're going to face the best pitching in the league. If you don't have the potential to manufacture runs, you can't win a short series against potential Cy Young winners. Worse yet, you're facing the best hitting in the league as well. If they are manufacturing runs, then obviously they have an advantage. That's been our biggest problem over the past half decade. We get into a hole by a run or two, and we can't dig out of it. It just snowballs from there. Even if ARod had hit consistent with his average numbers, we'd still not have advanced in the playoffs each year. That's what gets lost in the anti-Alex argument. If he was able to hit like he did in the regular season this year, there's a chance we advance, but even that isn't a sure thing. And he wasn't going to hit like that against Carmona and Sabathia.
Dombrowski (spelling?), the GM of Detroit, told the AP yesterday that the Tigers ARE NOT in the Arod sweepstakes. I think he's going to the Angels, with the Mets a distant second.
Does this mean the Matsusaka quote is going to replace the 1 RBI in 999999 ABs line? It's about the 100th time you have used it already. And even a fool would know you don't get to the postseason unless you do well in the regular season. We did well in those years because of pitching, not hitting. I'm fine with the role players as long as we go after and acquire Santana and maybe one other top notch pitcher. Until we have that kind of pitching we need to score all the runs we can.
if he was average the last 3 1/2 postseason series we would have won AT LEAST 3 if not all 4. W/ the xcetion of maybe the Cle serie in the other series we were a clutch hit away from being able to win or pull away. 1 more rn vs.bsin game 4 or 5, how many opportunties didwe have against LAA? Game 2 vs. det could have buried them and even vs. cle if we get a clutch hit in game 2 we at least get it back o Cleveland the who knows? yes thre were other culprits throughout the various series but only 1 guy was consistently bad in each. and he was our most talented player. There's nway the Sox win in '04 or this year w/o ortiz stepping up. Even when manny as bad in the '04 LCS ortiz picked him up but ARod could never have an ortiz-like postseason and that is just one of many reasons we lost but the biggest reason we lost.
The matsuzaka stat is even more embarrassing than the Bubba stat although both are very embarrassing.
And I would argue that Pettitte was our best pitcher all year despite his win total. He had no support at all the first half of the year and was by far the best pitcher in the second half. His post season record speaks for itself. Wang had an ERA over 5 on the road for the year. So yeah, all the blame falls directly on Torre for his Clueless Joe decision. If Pettitte pitched game 1 we win and he starts game 4 as well.
How can you say if pettitte pitched game 1 we win when he pitched game 2 and we lost? I think Joe wanted Andy for a Game 5 and you know if we dd start andy in game 1 and did play a game 5 w/ Wang and lost then you'd complain why didn't Joe start andy in game's 2 and 5 PLUS Wang did start at home in game 4 and got beat up again- so if Joe can't stat him athome and can't start him on the road are yo saying he houldn't have started wang at all?
By the way, in '05 Wang went 6 2/3 in game 2 at LAA giving up just 1 earned run. The other 3 unearned runs were as a result of an error from some guy they call the greatest player of all time. Wang's '06 LDS start was at home and he gave up 3 ER in 6 2/3.
'05? Who the hell cares about '05? And Wang's '06 LDS start was at home? Who the hell was pitching game 1 then and giving up those 8 ERs? Me? And game 4 giving up 4 ERs in 1 inning? Me again?
AND we lost!!!! You are complaining he started on the road when in his 2 previous postseason starts he was BETTER on the rad than he was at home.
