Breaking News: A-Rod to Opt Out

Discussion in 'Baseball Forum' started by Canadian, Oct 28, 2007.

  1. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2005
    Messages:
    13,601
    Likes Received:
    0
    Let's not forget it also "leaked" that he'd be interested in playing for Torre when Joe got the LA job.

    It's all part of the Boras game. No one finds it interesting that: "Several teams have expressed an interest and there have been a couple of surprise teams I never expected to hear from," he said. Boras would not reveal any names

    Desperation when your plans fail miserably is interesting to watch.

    The longer this goes on, the more I want GMs across the league to publicly say they have no interest, regardless of whether they do or don't. Of course I don't want to see him on the Sox, but more than that, I want them to publicly say they don't have any desire for him.

    Eventually his stock will plummet, and he'll get an average deal. At this point, he's had the opportunity to come out publicly and make some sort of statement, but he's chosen not to. Letting Boras continue to dig his hole is obviously not working.
     
  2. ollie

    ollie Right Wing NutJob

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2003
    Messages:
    8,311
    Likes Received:
    43
    LA doesn't pay the kind of money...

    I think A Rod has realized he screwed up big time and Boras pushed his luck one time too many....

    Don't be surprised if A Rod comes out and says I only want to play for the Yankees & I'm not negotiating with any other team...

    If he did that I'd welcome him back
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    Yeah, that was actually pretty funny as it is the exact same line Boras uses every year no matter who the FA is. Did he really think anybody would take it seriously?
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility as long as he adds that he will play the first three years for what it would have cost the Yankees under the old Texas contract. That is the only way the Yankees could back down. If the Angels pony up the money he has a place to land. I may be wrong but I really don't see him going to national league. It doesn't help him in trying to get the records he wants. Boston could still get in it but they certainly don't sound like they have any interest. Detroit said they have no interest and who else would have the money to still field a decent team after paying him that much money?
     
    #324 Don, Nov 5, 2007
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2007
  5. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2005
    Messages:
    13,601
    Likes Received:
    0
    Here's the thing.

    I want ARod back regardless. What ollie said is probably the best way for it to happen though. It will smooth most of the ruffled feathers of Yankees fans in general, which is something he has to do to return.

    As for your number, I think it could work a different way. As I said before, if he's willing to meet with the Tampa group without Boras in attendance, and solely make it about apologizing for this fiasco, without talking money, it would reopen the door for him.

    At that point, the Yankees should offer him 10 years, $350M, making him the highest paid player in the game, giving him what he wants, and the Yankees, by not giving up $400M for him, save face.

    Then everyone is happy except junc.
     
  6. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

    Joined:
    May 26, 2004
    Messages:
    5,198
    Likes Received:
    3
    I was actually listening to that interview. It was on Dennis and Callahan when I was on my way to class. He went on to say that the Sox would definately be interested if the price was right. If Lowell is resigned, I expect that to make Boston even higher on his list, because he could go back to his natural position of shortstop.
     
  7. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2005
    Messages:
    15,454
    Likes Received:
    393
    It would be easier, and cheaper to Dump Delgado, and put Barroid at first.

    Reyes, Castillo, Barroid, Beltran, Wright and Alou.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    The only problem with that is no FA or their agent will ever believe the Yankees in the future if they say they won't negotiate under similar circumstances. He has to play for less the first 3 years. They could make that money up in the later years of a new deal but it has to at least appear the Yankees won on that point.
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    Sure, but what is the right price? If the price is right every top tier team would be interested. As one owner put it, Arod is only one MCL away from total disaster for any team that signs him to an extremely long extremely expensive contract. At least in the AL he might still be able to DH. Imagine if he was playing the NL and that happened.
     
    #329 Don, Nov 5, 2007
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2007
  10. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2003
    Messages:
    17,751
    Likes Received:
    1,597
    Any team that is saying they aren't interested is just sending a smoke signal. I know how these things work. Detroit says they're not interested but in all likely hood they are talking to Boras. I'm not saying he's going to Detroit but by publicly saying your not interested doesn't mean you really aren't.

    As far as Boras's statement, maybe he is lying maybe not but he IS going to get Arod his money and he IS the best agent in the game.

    As far as these articles in the NY Times and the other paper; they like the Red Sox report aren't reported anywhere else. These are just fabrications of the truth to sell papers. Arod and Boras knew what the Yankees were offering, if he really wanted to be a Yankee he would not have asked for 125 million more than what they were offering.

    Don't be surprised at all if he ends up with the Marlins. I know it sounds crazy but there are a lot of variables that make sense.

    He is from Miami
    What better way to get your new stadium then to sign the best player in baseball? Then they will cater the dimensions to his liking.
    They have the $$$
    That infield would be pretty good with Cabrera, Uggla and Arod
    They have lots of young players that don't need to be resigned for a few years.

    Granted in the long run it's a disater and he'll be traded but for right now it makes perfect sense for the Marlins to sign him.

    I also think the White, Sox ,Nationals, Phillies and Orioles will be players in this as well.

    Like I've been saying most teams in baseball can afford to sign him to 350 million the question is after they sign him can they put a winning team around him? In most cases no but some teams have shown that they will spend alot for 1 star FA but nobody else.

    There are a few teams I think you can cross right off the list
    Pirates
    Twins
    Reds
    A's
    D-Rays
    Astros (although they could afford him)
    Diamondbacks
    Rangers ( I just don't think he'd go back to Texas)
    Rockies
    Royals (The Glass family has more $$$ than God but they are getting better through youth)
    Padres
    Brewers
     
    #330 Barry the Baptist, Nov 5, 2007
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2007
  11. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    17,221
    Likes Received:
    16,518

    I bet pigs will fly and the Jets will win consecutive super bowls before this happens. Go into negotiations without your lawyer? And for the purpose of apologizing? Doubtful.
     
  12. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2005
    Messages:
    13,601
    Likes Received:
    0
    I didn't say it would happen. I just think it's the only way the door reopens to him.
     
  13. wildthing202

    wildthing202 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2003
    Messages:
    14,495
    Likes Received:
    4
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/...lt=Au_e283eMp0oYTkpHS1MlteFCLcF?urn=mlb,52279

    Citing sources close to Alex Rodriguez, the Boston Globe reported Sunday that if Rodriguez could handpick the team he plays for, the Boston Red Sox might be No. 1 on his list.

    According to The Globe, the source said Rodriguez would love to play for the Sox because he thinks they can win multiple championships.

    Also, agent Scott Boras has been pleasantly surprised with the early interest in Rodriguez. "Several teams have expressed an interest and there have been a couple of surprise teams I never expected to hear from," he said. Boras would not reveal any names (one of the surprise teams is thought to be the Marlins).

    Source: The Boston Globe
     
  14. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    27,177
    Likes Received:
    14,477
    I hope he does go to Boston. Would add to his jackass personality.
     
  15. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    11,725
    Likes Received:
    5,949
    signing Arod for the type of money he wants is a desperation move IMO, because although he will bring in revenue it significantly affects every other move a team makes while he is there. the Red Sox and Yanks aren't desperate -- The Red Sox just won the WS and the Yanks seem to finally understand that they need more than Arod to win and they may be better off with using those resources elsewhere. The Angels are close but not desperate -- they need another bat, not neccessarily Arod. if they can get someone like Tori Hunter and move Gary Mathews to left to replace Anderson, that may be a better and cheaper move.

    there are two teams that fit the desperate role perfectly -- Dodgers and Mets. the Dodgers haven't won anything significant since 1988 and are searching for an identity, and the Mets are coming off the worst collapse in regular seaosn history and will do anything to win this season. those teams need Arod simply for public perception.
     
  16. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    I read that Florida will be shopping Cabrera at the meetings this week. That would be just about right for them if they really had any interest...lol. The only one team I believe is interested in Arod right now is the Angels and I'm not sure they even are.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    Of course the Boston Globe said that just like the NY Times says he wants to play for the Yankees.
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    Haha..doesn't sound like the Yankees are very worried about Boras or any of his clients.

    "Alex Rodriguez is history with the Yankees and when I asked Hank Steinbrenner yesterday if there were any regrets, he answered quickly and honestly. "No," he said. "[Scott] Boras makes it easy not to have any."

    As for Boras' contention that the Yankees may have lost their way in their "commitment" to winning, Hank said bluntly, "He's full of [bull]."

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7398272
     
  19. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2003
    Messages:
    15,116
    Likes Received:
    5,142
    It is really funny how the best player in baseball is looking for a team to get him a ring,they are not looking for his help getting one.
     
  20. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2004
    Messages:
    27,177
    Likes Received:
    14,477
    A-Rod is becoming a joke. His legacy will always include him not making it in New York.
     

Share This Page