Breaking News: A-Rod to Opt Out

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  1. JoeJet

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    Anybody can say anything now. Its all negotiating posturing. Thats why I still think the Yankees will get in it besides what Hank (Boy George) Steinbrenner is saying.
     
  2. Don

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    I don't. Actually, I shouldn't say that definitively. If Boras were to show up with a signed 9 year deal for $225 million they would probably take it. What they won't do is negotiate with him. Everybody who ever has knows that's a losing proposition. Just ask the Mets what happened 7 years ago with Arod.

    With Boras it's never posturing. He wouldn't have had him opt out if he didn't already have or think he has at least a 300 million dollar deal. He thinks Arod can play until his mid-40s and has mentioned a 14 year contract too.
     
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  3. JoeJet

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    Breakfast at the Steinbrenners:

    George eating his oatmeal -

    George: Honey get Hank on the phone, I want him to call AROD and see if we can plan a fishing trip off the Gulf
    Wife: George, AROD is not talking to us.
    George: Huh?
    George: Call Torre and see what he knows about this.
    Wife: Honey, Torre signed a contract to manage the Dodgers
    George: Huh?
    George: Have Hal call Girardi at YES and have him rip Torre and AROD on being bad Yankees
    Wife: George, Girardi is now the manager of the Yankees.
    George: Huh?
     
  4. AlioTheFool

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    I think this is the one point practically everyone can agree on, Yankees fans, Mets fans, and Red Sox fans alike.

    And honestly, any fan of baseball who wouldn't be happy if he loses money isn't paying attention to parity issues. ARod losing money is good for the sport.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    haha...

    "With all the text messaging Rodriguez is doing these days his fingers should be raw. Some people believe Rodriguez is trying to undo the disaster he caused Sunday night when he opted out of the final three years of a contract without giving the Yankees a chance to meet and make an offer. Moments after Torre was named the Dodgers manager yesterday, Rodriguez told a person he was interested in joining Torre in Hollywood."

    "If Rodriguez is serious about patching things up with the Yankees, he needs to knock on Hank Steinbrenner's Clearwater, Fla., home today and start the conversation by handing over a $30 million check to make up for what the Rangers were going to pay the Yankees for the next three years if Rodriguez stayed a Yankee.

    And that may be the beginning of something. Or maybe not. "

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/11022007/sports/yankees/earnin__his_pinstripes_278735.htm

    Everybody will be happy if he goes to the Dodgers and the NL.
     
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  6. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    To compare the Mets and Rangers is assanine. First off the Mets play in New York City, not in the burbs of a large city. The Mets unlike the Rangers are big revenue. The Mets also have the pieces in place to make a championship run. With no pitching on the market this year they'll have to wait until next year to get some but with 30 million off the book next year that seems fine for Arod to make, throw in the fact that they don't have to pick up the option on Delgado and that's another 12 million they'll be able to spend.

    Throw in the fact that the Rangers never followed through on their promise to build a winner around Arod, the Mets have already showed their willing to at least attempt to put a winner on the field in New York. As far as being fine at SS and 3rd maybe they are and Reyes will be traded to the Twins for Santana and Arod will go back to playing SS.
     
  7. Don

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    Well, great...get out your wallets. Reyes for Santana, you must be kidding.

    See below.
     
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    Before Alex Rodriguez opted out of his contract with the Yankees earlier this week, the team was told that it would not be able to meet with the third baseman unless it presented an offer of at least $350 million, sources say.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3091277
     
  9. ShadeTree#55

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    Yanks = Cheap
     
  10. Don

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    Haha...yep...and smart. We want the Mets to be the laughing stock of baseball for the next 12+ years. If it was 350 for the Yankees that means at least 400 million for anybody else as the Yankee deal would only have been an extension. No wonder Boras is now desperate.
     
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  11. AlioTheFool

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    What would you consider a fair deal for ARod?

    As much as I'd still love to have the guy back, 12 years, $360M is a really crazy number. And as Don said, that would be in addition to the money still coming in from Texas, so his number is in the $400 range as far as asking price.


    EDIT: I actually pose this question to everyone. What would you consider fair to pay ARod?
     
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  12. Don

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    And that's just for the privilege to talk to him.

    I think anybody offering him a contract now will seriously try to keep it less then the 252 million Texas gave him 7 years ago. Maybe 30 million for 8 years.

    The best part is that Boras will want an opt out clause too so if he gets close to breaking the records he can leave and soak somebody else. Any owner willing to get himself into that will deserve whatever he gets.
     
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  13. AlioTheFool

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    You make an interesting point that I meant to make earlier myself. You have to believe part of any negotiation is going to be the inclusion of another opt-out clause. Who is going to be willing to give that to him? Whoever brings him in does so with the intention of keeping him around long enough to seriously pursue Bonds. What happens when Alex is within 100 of the mark, and decides he wants to skip town, knowing his value will be at its peak at that point?
     
  14. Barry the Baptist

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    In his blog for ESPN.com, Buster Olney writes that the Angels, Dodgers and D?Backs likely have the best collection of prospects to trade for Twins LHP Johan Santana.

    Olney goes on to speculate and suggest the Twins trade Santana and SS Jason Bartlett to the Mets for SS Jose Reyes, OF Carlos Gomez and a young pitcher like RHP Mike Pelfrey.

    I'm guessing Buster Olney is just making this up?
     
  15. JoeJet

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    Don > Buster Olney. Actually if the Twins could trade Santana and Bartlett to the Mets for
    Reyes, Gomez and Pelfrey, the Twins would JUMP all over that deal.
     
  16. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Yes Don brings up a very good point, I think Alex and Boras will definately attempt to have a similar escape clause like he had in the Texas deal.
     
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  18. JoeJet

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    Any team would be crazy to give it to him. At least half of AROD's value to a team signing him now is the revenue he will generate as he approaches the home run mark.
     
  19. Barry the Baptist

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    As much as I want the Mets to land him if there is any opt out clause he'll never gain acceptance from the Met fans. If he wants to play for the Mets it better be because he wants to finish his career with the Mets.
     
  20. Don

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    Yeah, he is. They want pitching and at least two pitchers will be needed as part of a package to get him. The Angels would be brutal if they got him. Especially since they may be in the Arod derby too. I doubt they would want to pay for both.
     

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