Breaking News: A-Rod to Opt Out

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  1. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    All it would take to get Cabrera there would be a medium to large sandwich. To get his contract would take more than that.
     
  2. Pride

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    It probably would take Melky , Kennedy and a middle fo the pack prospect else for Cabrera
     
  3. SettlerDawg

    SettlerDawg Well-Known Member

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    I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think Cabrera has less power than Arod, but much better contact and ability to hit for average.
     
  4. Cappy

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    I'd guess a little more than that, assuming there will be competition for Miguel. (And how could there not be?)

    As for A-Rod, that blows. I suppose it's too much to hope that it's just a super-high-leverage negotiation ploy on Boras' part. I know it's a long shot, but for some reason, I could see this being EXACTLY the kind of stunt Boras pulls to get more money out of the Yanks.

    If he truly is gone, though, I hope the Yanks stay true to their word and don't get involved.

    Regardless, even though that's a lot of production to replace, I still like our chances next year. It's still a sick lineup, and adding Chamberlain, Hughes, and maybe Kennedy to the rotation for a full season should be an improvement over what they had for a good part of this year (barring injuries, of course).

    Obviously, though, this assumes that the Yanks take care of business and get Mo, Po, and Pettitte to come back next year. If they lose all three of those guys, it might make for a rough 2008.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I hope they now let Rivera and Posada walk too. Then Pettitte won't come back, they will be at least 20 million under the cap and it's the perfect time to start rebuilding. That will certainly fuck every other owner in the league as well. Bring in the young kids this year and start filling the holes in '09.

    For sure hire Giardi now as he is perfect to work with young kids as he did in Florida.
     
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  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Goodbye and good riddance.
     
  7. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I can't believe there are actually people here HAPPY that ARod has opted out.

    I swear, NYers are not NEARLY as knowledgable as the media claims they are. THIS is why people don't want to play here. Our fanbase is clueless.

    The BEST PLAYER EVER is leaving town.

    As much as it would be a huge dagger in my heart, I almost HOPE he goes to Boston, and the Papi-Manny-ARod punch DESTROYS EVERYONE for years.

    Anyone who honestly thinks ARod won't hit in October in Boston's lineup better not put on the tv next October.
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The best player ever who has 1 RBI in his last 16 postseasn games is the greatest player ever? he played like it this regular season but that's the only season of his 4 here that he played like the best player in the sport.

    it's clear he's not about winning and it's all about him and how much he can get paid. he announces his decision during Game 4 of the WS? What a selfish jerk, the facts are the guy doesn't even deserve a raise and I hope beyond hope that no team is dumb enough to offer him $30 mil per.

    Why would the Sox who have won 2 WS in 4 years want ARod? Why would they pay $30 mil per for a guy that can't hit in October when they can pay a fraction of that to keep a guy like Lowell wo is coming of a WS MVP? To fill the ballpark? they alrady to that, to win Championships? they already do that? to sell some more merchandise? there's no reason Boston would go after ARod.

    ARod couldn't hit in october w/ a good yankee lineup, why will he hit in Boston's lineup? The man is not a clutch player.
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I totally agree and the fools that wanted him to leave will be sucking wind for years until we even have a chance to make it back to the post season. We now have 0 right handed power hitters. It was bad enough when they let Sheffield walk. There is nobody out there this year that isn't already over the hill and on their way down. I really don't trust Andruw Jones at all.

    The ultimate insult will be if he goes to the Mets. He said he likes NY, that would fit. For sure Boras thinks he had a deal with somebody as illegal as that may be. The funny think could be what he thinks he has and what he has without the Yankees involved may be two radically different things.
     
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  10. AlioTheFool

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    1 season of 4?

    That's funny. He won the MVP here once before already, that pretty much defines him as the best player, at least in the league, once before. (And I don't want to hear your BS that Ortiz was better that year. ARod played the field, period.)

    Why would Boston sign ARod? Because ANY team would be STUPID not to sign ARod.

    Why else? Because it would "stick it" to the Yankees. Moreso when he rolls through October and helps them win another World Series.

    Why else? Because a heart-of-the-order of Ortiz-Ramirez-Rodriguez-Lowell would qualify as one of the best middle of the order lineups in the history of baseball. Arguably the best ever.

    And there's no reason they wouldn't bring back Lowell. Alex would move back to his real position, shortstop, and be the best one in the game once more.

    He's not about winning? Why would you even bother to make that comment? How many titles have the Yankees won while he was here? Now how many have Boston won? Yeah, I thought so.

    This is exactly why he opted out. He was able to carry an entire team for months on his shoulders, and all anyone gives a damn about is that he didn't single-handedly win the World Series.

    As I said, NY fans are not nearly as a knowledgable as the media makes them believe.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Everyone knew he didn't deserve it. He had 1 great year, 1 good year and 2 mediocre years. That's not the best player of all time and that was just the reg season. In postseason he had 1 good postseason, 2 embarrassingly bad postseasons and 1 just bad postseason- that's not the best player of all time.

    :rofl2: Boston sells out their building every game, they win, they sell alot of merchandise. They don't need to waste money on ARod.

    That's the ONLY reason they'd do it but they are about winning now, why spend $30 mil to stick it to the yanks and then not win?

    Until october when there would be a big hole in ARod's spot.


    So being about winning to you means he jumps from team to team after they win Championships? He was on a good Seattle team then left for the money, he's on a good Yankee team(he's been the biggest obstacle for this team to win in october) and now he wants to jump ship again and he announces it during game 4 of the WS. he's about himself, he's about the money, he's about the meaningless fantasy #s- he's NOT about winning.


    No one asked him to carry us to a Championship, just a minor contributio would have been enough and 1 RBI in 16 postseason games is not a minor contribution.

    Those who are blined by meaningless fantasy #s are not, those of us that want to win and remember how we won are. I'd rather spend $30 mil elsewhere, get some clutch bats in here, upgrade the pen, etc... We didn't win w/ the man so why is it a big deal he's leaving? I want to win Championships again, when we were winning we were never dependant on 1 player, we didn't have 1 big power guy- we were a TEAM. maybe we can becoe a team again? after all our last WS appearance came the year before ARod got here- coincidence?
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    You are just plain stupid. 36 HRs and 106 RBIs in '04 and 35 HRs and 121 RBis in '06 and you call that mediocre. You are one of the fans that deserve what will come now. Enjoy it.
     
  13. rillo

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    Not a surprise...Good riddance freaking choke artist!
     
  14. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    The fans never embraced him until this year. Just way too late. It's the fans fault too.
    Anyone find the timing of this funny? The Red sox were in the process of winning the WS and the Yankees were bigger news.:lol: again
     
  15. ollie

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    When Boras offers him back to the Yankees, and he will, I hope they publicly embarrass him like they did with Beltran...

    a "No. You had your chance and you opted out. Now we don't want you. Go away." would make me happy
     
  16. AlioTheFool

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    It's ALL the fans fault. Let's not sugarcoat this. He was vastly underappreciated here his entire tenure. I don't blame him ONE BIT for opting out.

    See a certain poster above you for a clue as to why ARod said "F U Yankee Fans".

    Already done. There's an article on ESPN.com right now where one of the Steinbrenner brothers already said something to the effect of "He has shown us he doesn't want to be a Yankee, and we don't want anyone who doesn't want to be a Yankee."

    ARod is gone. And he will play in Boston next year. And they will win the World Series, again.
     
  17. Baron Samedi

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    I have a few comments regarding this...

    I reject the "Greatest Player Ever" comment. In my book, anyone mentioned in such a conversation MUST have good performances in clutch situations...i.e. playoffs. A-Rod's numbers show s significant drop off...

    147 AB's....7 HR's....17 RBI's.....BA .279

    Very, mediocre, ordinary numbers....for ANY player......for A-Rod, a HUGE performance drop-off. And we're talking 147 at bats, that a large body of work to judge him by, not a fluke.

    Whatever money is spent on A-Rod, can be spent in other areas of a team and probably have a much greater impact on the whole for the team....although maybe won't sell as many T-shirts.

    As a Sox fan, I pray he goes elsewhere..the NL somewhere would be best....I sure as hell don't want him in Boston!

    The Red Sox, however, have shown interest in him in the past, so I think it is a possibilty...one I hope does not come to fruition.
     
  18. jonnyd

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    A-rod is about winning? Alio, please give examples that show A-rod is about winning.....and you said players dont want to come here because the fans are stupid? c'mon bro, I think youre letting your emotions get the best of you here....fuck him...hes gone. so be it. Are we supposed to rub his balls and beg him to stay? I dont get it...A-rod opted out. period. What did the yankees do wrong?
     
  19. AlioTheFool

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    When looking at ARod's dropoff, you have to look at his numbers pre-GYC, and then GYC-on. At the same time, you have to do the same for his entire supporting cast.

    It wasn't ARod alone who collapsed in the postseason. Put it this way, if the entire Sox lineup went cold in October, would you have faith that either Papi or Manny could carry the entire club on their singular shoulders? Maybe if both of them hit, but not if it was only one of them.

    Trust me, you want ARod playing shortstop next to Lowell. Your team would be ridiculously good for the forseeable future. And they're already there as it is.
     
  20. AlioTheFool

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    I never said the Yankees themselves did anything wrong.

    If you noticed, I said it was the fans.
     

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