Alio's Kick Ass Program

Discussion in 'BS Forum' started by AlioTheFool, Jun 8, 2007.

  1. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

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    I don;t think anyone is saying that. I woudl assume that most people on this thread eat fast food every once in a while, but not all the time. if you eat it all the time, you're not necessarily fat, but most likely not in great health either. I mean, Larry Fitzgerald eats a McDonald's breakfast before every game, but not 5 days a week, and he works out like a motherfucker all week.

    In my opinion, it's OK to go for McDonalds or the like every now and then, and if you're exercising regularly, then it really should be a problem if it is just an occasional thing. I find that if you're workign out regularly and seeing the results is brings, you'll be deterred from eating junk food because you'll want to avoid being counter-productive with your fitness.
     
  2. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    I find the more often you work out and healthier you become, you DESIRE the fast food less, and by virtue of that fact, you enjoy it a little more when you do eat it.


    Me in the gym this morning..... :wink:

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    For those of you that are fitness enhusiasts, thats actually Arthur Saxon, lifting 445 lbs overhead.... (335 pound barbell and a 110 pound kettlebell)
     
  3. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I can't lift 335lbs with TWO hands. Sheesh...
     
  4. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    I can dead lift it, but thats as far as that goes....


    Hell, this morning, I went to military press, first after cardio.

    135....No problem, cleaned it up to the chest, pumped out 7, put it down.

    put a 5lb weight on each side, went to clean it up, got it just past the waist,
    and the bar went back down.


    TWICE.


    I actually had to take off the IPOD, dry off, stare at the bar for 30 seconds, before I could get it up to my chest....Totally Embarassing.


    *Note to self, don't do exercises dependant on legs right after Cardio....:mad:
     
  5. Mantana Soss

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    He edited the attacks out of his post, so I did the same.

    So fellas, I'm knocking down a couple sugar free full-throttles this morning. Tell me all the ways it's going to kill me within the week :lol:
     
  6. Jtuds

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    Calling bullshit on the 335 lbs.....crazy black and white photoshop magic.....or one of those pretend barbells made of foam...
     
  7. 1028

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    It's not bullshit... I don't know where Hobbes is getting the number 445 from, though. As far as I know, Saxon's record for the overhead press is somewhere in the vicinity of 380... which is still damn impressive, especially considering his time.

    If you think it's photoshopped, try looking on youtube for videos of Paul Anderson, in particular his 300 lb DB press (I think his record is 400, but it wasn't recorded), and his 2000 pound squat. Or hell, here, I'll just post some of his shit:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kny0jxHszX0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRBst03LtnI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8DY5-J6I6c

    Oh, and if that's not enough, Anderson also holds the record for the world's greatest backlift... 6270 pounds. Heh.

    Bear in mind, too, that these guys are old-school... and while I don't mean to disrespect them or anything, generally speaking, the powerlifters of today are far stronger.
     
  8. 1028

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    Standing military presses? I never really got into those, they just look awkward as hell to me. That, and the fact that I'm generally not a fan of barbells... I just go heavy on DBs whenever I work out on my own, for a variety of reasons, really.

    I hadn't even touched a BB on any type of press for two years, until two days ago, when my friends were pressuring me to see how much I can max out at. I did... ok. Not as great as I probably should have, but definitely above par, and definitely good enough considering I don't even DO barbells, and haven't done them in two years. My plan is to become reacquainted with them over the course of the next two weeks, then try my max again soon... hopefully by then my muscles will have adapted to the motion of the movement, and I'll be able to put up at least 20 pounds more. I won't post my stats here though, since it really isn't that type of thread.
     
  9. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Thanks ICWT and Soss. I just don't see any reason this thread should devolve into an argument thread. We're all just trying to help each other! :beer:
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    I don't do barbells either 1028. The dumbells I was doing steady, but I've been a bit lazy with them over the past month or so. I've been doing all body weight exercises lately. (Pushups, situps, squats without weight, etc.)
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    BTW: Hobbes said 335, not 445.
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    Man, that dude's numbers are insane. I don't even want to be able to do that kind of weight. I'm no gym rat, just trying to maintain my health long-term so I can watch my kids have kids who have kids.

    Someone with that much dedication definitely deserves big time props though!
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    As for your numbers, don't feel like you shouldn't post them. There's nothing wrong with that. Hell, be proud of what you can do. I really believe that anyone who gets themselves into any sort of workout regimen, whether it's hardcore, or just for health, should be proud of themselves and talk about it. You never know when it's going to encourage someone else.
     
  10. 1028

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    Well, I mean I don't do BBs on press exercises (flat bench, incline bench, shoulder press, etc). Though I do feel that I generally get a better workout from DBs, the main reason I tend to gravitate towards DBs, and away from BBs, is because I prefer to workout solo, ie, without a spotter. I feel that whenever I'm working out with someone else, I tend to lose focus... I start talking to them, or whatever, and I lose my concentration and many times don't even get to finish my routine on time. I definitely use BBs for stuff like deads and squats though, especially considering there's really no other way to perform them.

    As far as posting my numbers, it's not a question of being embarrassed or ashamed of them (I'm not, although I'm kinda pissed at my bench and know it should've been way higher). Rather, I don't wanna come off as too pretentious in this thread. This thread seems to be mostly geared towards a general discussion of fitness, whereas my goals are more athletically oriented than anything else.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

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    The exercise in question, above is the "Two hands Anyhow". I just love that pic.....

    Saxons 1905 record is 448#.

     
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    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    See for me it's the opposite. While I always workout alone, with headphones, and generally don't like to interact with other people.

    Nothing annoys me more than trying to concentrate, and have some assclown parade his/her sweaty ass past my face.....

    And the gym I work out at now, has lazy floor personnel that dont re-rack the weights in the places they actually belong, which cuts down on that.

    I only go to the dumbell rack once, and thats to get a dumbell for two handed overhead triceps presses (elbowf**ers), at the very end of my workout....
     
  13. AlioTheFool

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    I wasn't implying that you were ashamed of yourself at all. I just meant don't feel like you can't share your stories. Personally, I don't think I could press more than about 100 at this point, but it wouldn't come off to me as pretentious that you can, and said as much.

    Getting athletically oriented is a natural next step after getting in shape. I'm semi-athletically oriented. Actually, before my wife went back to work nights, and left me getting up with the baby all night, I was starting to think in terms of getting "jacked". Unfortunately, now it's hard to even motivate myself to do my 10 minutes in the morning, just due to being so damned tired.

    At some point, things will balance out, and I'll get back into weight-training. I have a barbell I bought a few months back, but I never got around to using it. My dumbells are still sitting on the floor too. It's just a matter of getting some sleep, and I'll be back working out hard again. (Though never to the point where you're at, but that's no big deal to me.)
     
  14. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Nothing kills the ability to train like a newborn.....!!!!
     
  15. InChadWeTrust

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    Another thing people might want to consider is using protein powder and creatine. Obviously it depends on your goals but if you wish to build muscle, using these two supplements will help tremendously.

    I want to focus specifically on creatine, because I can tell that will be the one people are more skeptical of. I know there is a negative connotation with creatine, and I was among those suspicious. After taking it for a month now I must say I am really impressed with the results.

    The way creatine works (in a nutshell) is it allows your body to retain higher amounts of water, which are stored in your muscles. When your muscles retain more water they also increase in size. You gain healthy muscle mass, which will in turn help in burning off fat.

    I know one of the biggest things I was worried about was the initial weight gain from it. If you start taking it you will gain a few pounds (likely 2-5), but this is a result of muscle mass growing. Don't be afraid of the weight gain it helps create a more muscular body that will in turn decrease fat.

    Consider this: On average, the body will burn 50 calories everyday to maintain every pound of muscle in one's body. If you gain a few pounds of muscle mass this means you would burn a couple of hundred extra calories each day just by breathing!

    Again, I want to emphasize that it's really only helpful if you're looking to get more muscular. If you just want to keep the weight off you shouldn't feel the need to take them.
     
  16. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    I luv Creatine.
     
  17. Jtuds

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    You burn 1 more calorie per minute when standing than you do when sitting!
     
  18. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Creatine isn't a waste of money? I use protein powder in a smoothie shake as a post-workout meal (again, not for the past couple weeks with the baby situation,) but I don't use anything else. The stuff I've read says that everything but protein powder is a waste of money.

    Advice on the subject is much appreciated.
     
  19. Jtuds

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    I used creatine for about 8 solid months and did see results but I can't tell you for sure that it was due to the creatine alone. At the time I was taking 2 Mammoth 2500 chakes per day, so it was a ridiculous amount of calories, as well as takign the creatine and drinking liek 5 Litres of water/day....pissing about ever 15 minutes.....and eating like a mofo as well as working out 5 days a week like crazy.

    I got stronger, but I can't say I looked "huge" or even noticeably musculer...I was always skinny though.....it's not a placebo but it's not what some make it out to be either.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what you are interested in.

    Creatine will help you get a couple extra reps in any given set....And because one of the effects is to force more water into the muscle, you'll feel more pumped...
     

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