"They're eating her! Next they're going to eat me! OH MY GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHDDDDD!!!!!" --Troll 2 That's the plan.
^Why not? Why can't we, the fans who plunk down good money and have suffered for 40 years, know what the "Plan" is? Releasing how you are supposedly planning to turn your team into a winner is top secret? Belicheck and the Pats ownership made no secret of how they went about it. The point is it seens this "Plan" is a figment of many people's imagination, or at least that is the way it appears.
I believe that the adage goes...if you can't bedazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.. I guess it's time to get the waders out 'cause the bs is gonna get a lot deeper...
Maybe you should write a letter to Mangini demanding the plan for the reasons you mentioned above. I'm sure he'll see it your way.
Here is the plan: The plan is to put you on ignore. Hopefully no one will quote you and the well conceived plan will succeed.
I thought the Plan was obvious to all Jets fans! We inherited a former New England coach and he would bring the same or close to same format that has gain New England all the sucsess that they have had. We brought in an offensive cordinator from a full throttle team that used all its talent to score (I heard they would use the TE a lot). We went from a tampa two hybrid to a straight up 3-4 alignment because thats what they use in N.E. ( It Really works for them) We saw last year that our coach took advantage of other teams while they were spleeping and we for the most part kept teams off balance witht the lack of a strong running game.(Thanks Brad and Leon) I'm a little confused when people responding to this pretty good premise for a thread saying why does there have to be a plan . Guy's there always was a plan! we are living it right now!(I dont mean this as sarcasm either). Im sure of it now, Mangini never expected to have the sucsess he had last year and this year is a result of being fooled into what he has in the cubboard so to speak. Keep the plan alive it can still work. With someone else throwing the ball . Thats my two cents!
i got it. the plan is to hear the phrase, "the jets are on the clock", within the first 30 mins of the draft. no?
I think The Plan is get Chad knocked out so Mangini doesn't have to make a decision. Hey, it worked in N.E. Paging Mo Lewis...
OK....I'll take up the Tangini side on this as I have listened to every Monday Press Conference with EM and many MT interviews. The main emphasis is to rebuild the roster with tough, smart guys who care about football. Beyond the guys that they drafted or broght in there are only a handful of these guys on the team: Rhodes, Vilma, Cotchery, and maybe a couple of others. There others on the team who are hold the fort guys (Pennington) or impossible to move (Ellis, Robertson). Mangini's emphasis is not on winning right now, it is about instilling core team values. Tananbaum's job is to build through the draft and slowly acquire building blocks. It is painful for 2 reasons.....Pennington is toast and the D-Line stinks. I'm not defending the plan, but there is one. It is a plan that requires patience....which there is little of here. DbJ
why is wahoo getting lambasted from some of you guys? seems like a fair question to me.....is there a plan? Why do some of you have such blind faith in an accountant and a ballboy with very very little coaching experience and zero team building experience.....they kept bradway on board for football reasons for Gods sakes. We thought through manboobs rigid training camps and practices we'd have a team that runs through walls every sunday....do we have that? We thought we would install a defensive system and get players to fit into it. granted its been one draft and one off season but were there really significant strides made towards accomplishing that? We thought we drafted a QB of the future to take over for a painfully obvious finished Pennington....and now we have a coach who lacks the balls to initiate that plan....... So why is not fair for a fan to ask.....WHAT IS THE PLAN HERE?
The plan is for Manmoron to hold onto this job as long as he can…until Woody realizes that pissing in the urinal next to Bellicheat for eight years does not qualify a ball boy to be a head coach. I say he gets one and a half more seasons after this years disaster.
Anyone who doesn't think there is a plan needs to go back and re-examine what has been going on the past year and a half. Lack of planning has never been and IMO will never be an attribute of the Tangini regime. If it's one thing that we have seen over their time, it's planning and preparation. As to what the plan exactly is, we can only speculate. I'm sure it revolves around the "Mangni" guy that everyone quickly became sick of hearing about. It has to do with "team-players". That's why Mawae was gone ASAP. Then Kendall. It's also why Chad is still around...for now. I still firmly believe in this regime, even though I bitch on Sunday and don't have a full grasp of the Machiavellian machinations going on inside The Mangenius. We are in good hands. Write it down boys...with this coach, we will go far...and you can quote me on that!
its called UNINSPIRED football.....and the UNinspirating comes from Mangini......he is getting what he is giving IMO
Wow - a thoughtful answer - never thought I would see that here. You are right - I'm impatient. 40 years of futility will do that. I can understand the point of not winning right now, but I think you have to show SOMETHING that shows the direction you are moving. This off season left me scratching my head. I had no problem with the Reavis pick - good athlete - but what else did they do, other then chase Kendall in a circus like manner? They really didn't go after anyone, especially someone that would have performed better in the 3-4. And as for Clemmens - why wait till next year to see what he is? They did the same crap with Browning Nagle - let him throw a few balls one season (and I admit I was enraptured by his rocket arm), then the following season annointed him starter, and found out he couldn't play, which led to yet another wasted season. You may be right about the plan that they are trying to implement, but I need to see some evidence of it to be convinced. I don't expect miracles, but I would like to see something other than just hear talk.
Actually, I think Harris may turn out to be as good or better than Revis. The Kendall situation was more Kendall than the Jets. And relative to the plan, they would have been perfectly happy to keep him as a "hold-the-fort" guy, but Kendall forced his way out. Not giving him the $1M increase had little to do with the money, but rather to avoid a hoard of "non-Mangini" guys lining up outside MT's office looking for a raise. With regard to bringing in 3-4 guys, who was out there? Adaleus Thomas was the only one. But he wasn't worth the money for the Jets, because he is too old to contribute long term (conversely, he is perfect for the Pats...a win-now team). Clemens will start this season. I am convinced from everything I've been reading that Mangini feels he is stuck between a rock and a hard place, because of Pennington's popularity in the locker room. Pennington is playing his way out of the job and eventually (I think it is beginning this week) the players will come to realize Penny is no longer the solution at QB. It's frustrating and the product on the field is horrible. However, I think there is a plan there. Woody Johnson seems to be in this for the long haul and I think his is going to give Tangini an opportunity to succeed. I think it will happen, but it may be a rough ride the rest of this season. DbJ
