Cashman wiggles out on Arod opting out

If Boras hasn't made that call yet, then it's probably not going to work. I still think George is not the same old Boss. He's going to sit down with Hal, and the entire executive staff, and they're all going to discuss how to move forward into next year.

At least, this is what I seriously hope. Not that it matters what George does with his money, but I do really want things to settle down, before there is a turf war inside the organization.

 

Haha...sure Boras says that. I'm also sure it's not true. If he opts out the Yankees won't resign him. They would be the laughing stock of baseball for years to come. Also, if he opts out that means Boras already has a deal in place for him. That also means there has been illegal discussions about a player under contract. It won't be easy to prove but you can bet the Yankees will do everything they can to prove it.

 

I don't agree about the Yankees being a laughing stock if they still brought him back after the opt out. We're not talking about overpaying a Giambi, we're talking about the best player, possibly ever, to play the sport. He's worth literally anything he gets.

On the subject of the illegal negotiations, we all know he's done it. The Yankees can't do anything about it. The only real question is what Alex wants to do. If he wants to be a Yankee, he will be. If he doesn't, he'll walk no matter what he's offered.

We're going to learn a lot about the Yankees internal organization this offseason.

 

Yeah, but we are saying, if we resign him after he opts out, that we don't mind a bit throwing 30 million dollars away and competing against ourselves for our own player. That is what makes it a ridiculous scenario.

I'm also sure we will be extremely public that we won't get involved if he opts out. That is what makes Boras cringe. If everybody knows the Yankees won't play then Arod's new contract will take a huge nosedive. Which is why I said he doesn't opt out unless a deal is already in place.

 

Yeah, I think it's just a matter of the Yankees vs. Boras. That's why I think the entire thing is on ARod. If he wants to stay, he'll get a fair extension. If he wants to leave, he'll get probably the same amount.

It's all a matter of whether he is as comfortable with NY as he has claimed lately.

If he comes back though, with only an extension, he will surely be a hero to the fanbase.

 

The real problem is if we lose Arod we have 0 RH power hitters in our lineup. What, Jeter?..lol. That hurt us this year not having Sheffield. Without Arod we don't come close to making the playoffs and there are no free agents to even help pick up the slack. We will have a 170 million dollar payroll and probably finish 3rd or 4th in the division.

 

It will be his team if he comes back under those circumstances. I was saying that yesterday.

BTW, Boras would most likely be talking to more then one team if he is trying to get a deal in place ahead of time. He always runs the risk of one of the losers outting him if they get angry enough. He would lose his license to be an agent if that happened. Not to mention what would happen to the team that signed him.

 

I understand you are a passionate Yankee fan and that's good you are a good fan and I'd never call you a 96er. I like you because I think you are one of the few very intelligent Yankee fans on here but I think you are way overestimating him wanting to play for the Yankees. The issue is if the Yankees don't pay then Anaheim, Boston, Chicago and LA will all have a bidding war. Arod's contract with his next team has nothing to do with what the Yankees are willing to pay. It has everything to do if he wants to be in pinstripes for the remainder of his career. If Arod opts out I promise he'll get more money than what he is making now.

The Yankees knew this was going to happen when they signed him and now the risk is there that the trade with Texas is going to be worth it. (It wasn't a good trade for Texas either) The key for the Yankees is for him to not opt out because if he does and he resigns they'll lose the 20 million Texas pays a year on his contract.

 

This article gives good reason why none of those three teams will pay him. It also reiterates a lot of other points I have been making around why he won't opt out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...urces_yankees_wont_resign_alex_rodrigu-1.html

What also isn't said in there but what I have been thinking about lately is this. Arod really wants the HR record. There is no doubt about it. I think that precludes him playing for any NL team and their larger parks. I also think that rules out Boston and the Green Monster as a lot of his HRs are line drive bullets. That would leave just NY and LA. Of course he is probably pouring over his own personal copy of the blueprints for the new Yankee Stadium to make sure it fits.

 

I think the article is a bit off on the Angels. I think ultimately if he opts out that is where he goes. Moreno is no dummy and he knows that by adding a bat like Arod to their lineup makes them legitimate WS contenders every year. They have no real 3B either as Figgins is a utility guy that likely would play the OF or 2nd base. They have a very good young nucleas of players with Figgins, Kotchman, Kendrick, Napoli and Weaver that they're gonna be contenders every year regardless. The Angels are still looking for an identity too being that they play 40 miles away from LA yet still get no TV ratings. By adding Arod they not ony will outdraw the Dodgers but they'll crush them in the TV ratings. Lets be honest there was no reason to watch the Giants this year other than Barry Bonds chasing Aaron, imagine what having a guy most people like chasing that record will do for any team he plays for? Don't be fooled by the article, the Angels can afford to sign him and give him what he wants and IMO if given the oppurtunity that's what they'll do.

As far as not playing in the NL, the only NL team mentioned is the Cubs and that certainy is a hitters park. Granted 82 games away from Wrigley may prolong his chase a bit but the advantage of playing there gives him just as much an advantage as does playing in Yankee stadium. Also he could go to Philly (I hope not) but he would certainly have insane HR numbers in that place too. I don't see Philly as a realistic option though because I can't see Alex enjoying his stay there but certainly adding him to that lineup makes the Phillies a very scary team and might help them overcome their place as a forgotten team in that area.

 

As long as Boras is his agent, I expect A-Rod to be thinking $$$ first, legacy with one of the great franchises in history second.

I'd try to extend his current deal. If he opts out and then signs an obnoxiously large deal here, the fans will put even more pressure on him to win a championship, and have a huge October. It wouldn't be worth the headache.

 

I also think it's LA or NY in the end. Have since I first heard he had an opt out clause. He will want to get as far away from the east coast as he can if he leaves the Yankees.

 

I really don't think he comes back to NY if he opts out. As Alio said earlier, if he doesn't and signs an extension here he will win over the fans forever.

 

That's the way it should be, but you know some fans. Bigger contract = bigger expectations.

And it seems impossible for the expectations to get greater than they are already.

 

Yes, but I think they cut him some slack because he forgoes testing the market and commits to NY long term. It was one thing to come here in a trade and a completely different thing to sign here when there may be more money elsewhere.

 

Holy FUCK DUDE where the hell have you been!!!!!!

It's good to see you back! :beer:

You had plenty of us a bit worried

 

i hate scott boras.
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