The " Please don't opt out Arod" Thread

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  1. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    The thing I don't understand with all of this "well if we let ARod walk we save money" is why the hell does anyone actually believe that? The Yankees aren't short money to pay players, and until there is an actual salary cap, or an owner who actually uses the team as his sole source of income, they will continue to pay (overpay) for anyone they choose.

    Plus, ARod will be bringing fans into the park for a very long time. He's an investment, like putting money into a solid stock. He will eventually pay for himself.

    This silliness that paying ARod another 10M would somehow hurt our chances of paying for pitching is just that, silliness.

    The problem the past few years is that there is no quality pitching available through FA, not that we can't afford it. The best pitching stays with a club because clubs will spend money to keep quality pitching in this watered down league. That's why we haven't spent the money.

    But things will be different with Hughes and Chamberlain in the rotation next year. Would I love Santana? Of course. But the Twins won't give him up for any less than either Phil or Joba, plus at least another prospect. And that's only if they are feeling desperate to make a deal. Expect that they would demand both of our top guns, and there's NO WAY we bite on that deal.
     
  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    In sports like in life the catch phrase is what have you done for me lately.
     
  3. wildthing202

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    The Cubs. They're offering him part ownership which will increase in value.
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Not necessary. We lose Giambi's 21 million, Mussina's 17, Clemen's 18 and many more after this next year. There is no reason not to re-sign Arod from a financial viewpoint.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Easily.. the new stadium alone will generate an additional 100 million a year in income...A YEAR.
     
  6. AlioTheFool

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    What's the deal with that? I read that giving a player part ownership of the team is against the league rules. If so, no one has the money to offer Alex that we do. Maybe the Sox. Maybe.
     
  7. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Ruth had the all time HR record in the old stadium for 40 years. I'm sure they resign Arod to try and get the new record in the new stadium and then call it the house that Arod made. (Can't use built because he hasn't been here long enough)
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    It is. It's totally illegal and only something written to sell papers.
     
  9. wildthing202

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    We drop 9.5 mil for Clement and 13 for Schilling if he doesn't resign along with Lowell's 9 mil. So we have around 25+ mil open for 3rd base pending re-signings and other FA's.

    A-rod on the Sox.......best 3-5 in MLB history just about.........(110+ HR/350+ RBI if they are all healthy)

    #'s from http://www.sportscity.com/MLB/Boston-Red-Sox-Salaries
     
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  10. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    I dont understand how the Cubs can afford him either way. They've already got a ridiculous amount of money tied up in contracts the next 3 or 4 years not to mention 60M to their 3B who can't play anywhere else.
     
  11. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    You won't be able to get him to answer the phone for 25 million. Start at 32 and you may get a polite no thank you.
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Here's an interesting tidbit to think about and why I seriously doubt Arod will opt out unless we don't want to pay him.

    There has never been a star player that has left the Yankees of their own choice. We have kicked plenty out of town but no one has ever left of their own free will.

    It would be a precedent that would hound him the rest of his career.
     
  13. wildthing202

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    Well no Yankee really ever had an opt-out clause in their contract so no one could really leave on their own.
     
  14. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Actually the Twins can pay him the most, Carl Pohlad has twice as much money as Steinjerker. It's just Pohlad runs the Twins to make money, and Steinjerker runs the Yankees to win.
     
  15. EcKo151

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    And you couldn't ask anything more from an Owner.
     
  16. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    The guy doesn't like playing for the Yankees, how about that? He hates how his personal life is front page news in NY. He hates that photographers are taking pictures of his wife at Yankee stadium. He hates how Yankee fans treat him like it's his fault they can't win a WS and now when the guy has one of the greatest seasons in the history of the game Yankee fans are begging him to stay. The guy has more money than God, ultimately he is gonna go where he is worshipped not just when he hits 50 HRs and wins an MVP but all the time. Oh and don't forget how Captain Courageous has always stood up for the guy, even when they struggled he's crying about this isn't the same Yankee team from the 90's.

    I don't think leaving the Yankees would hound him, maybe in your Yankee dreams but the guy can go anywhere and hit the way he did this season. If he leaves the Yankee fans have nobody else to blame but themselves. They treated the guy like garbage and he was never on the same level as "Derek Jeter". The guy will go down as the greatest player ever to play the game and he was never good enough for you guys until you realized you could lose him.
     
  17. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Oh I know, I'd love to have Steindicker as my owner.
     
  18. EcKo151

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    Who wouldn't? He's one of the few owners who CARE and wants to win rather than make a buck...Although he does both.
     
  19. Mantana Soss

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    I want Bonds*'s record broken in the new Yankee Stadium. Sign him for life.
     
  20. AlioTheFool

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    I was just reading on ESPN.com that Boras is going to sell ARod not just as potentially the all-time home run king, but also the all-time hits king.

    And it's not even unrealistic.

    He's going to argue that ARod will play until he is about 45. In that time he could get the few hundred homers as well as the couple thousand hits he needs to eclipse both records.

    Boras will also argue that Alex will potentially bring in .5 to 1 BILLION dollars in revenue for a team's local sports network.

    He's probably going to get something in neighborhood of 10 years, $400M.

    And I'd give it to him in a heartbeat. I just wonder if he'll take it.
     

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