2007 ALDS Yankees-Indians

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  1. Gator

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    That was absolutley disgraceful how Vizcaino is pitching his heart out throwing heaters right ON the corner and the fat guy behind the plate is calling them balls. They gotta find some way to computerize balls and strikes. Draw an electronic box for each batter and a ball is a ball and a strike is a strike. Those pitches were right over the plate. Outside corner maybe....but the plate is pretty small to begin with. Changes the whole inning. I'd be beside myself if I were a Yankees fan and it pisses me off as baseball fan in general.
     
  2. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    It's very simple how you can't. It was a 1-0 game until that point, and only two more runs were scored after that. With a total of 3 runs in 11 innings, I don't think the bugs had much to do with it.

    I wonder if Chamberlain will now be the next Rick Ankiel. Great start, major control issues in the playoffs...

    I hope so anyway.
     
  3. BIG COUNTRY

    BIG COUNTRY Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I doubt it. Anyways no excuse for losing but I do think the flies bothered Joba, he flew through the end of the 7th and then looked very uncomfortable in the 8th.
     
  4. hazmat

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    I hate the yankees, but the bugs that inning were all over him. You could see them crawling on his face. No way his control would have been that bad if it wasn't for the millions of bugs. I can't say that caused the yankees to lose since they couldn't hit anyone, but it certainly didn't help.
     
  5. davecrazy

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    i didnt see the game, and i dont trust john sterlings impartial commentary such as "if only for the bugs...well...i guess went wont know what could of happened"

    was joba the only one who was attacked?
     
  6. Pride

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    I dont want to create the great Yankee escape gate but did you see those fricken bugs. 20 on his neck, all over his hat n jersey, a good share on his face. Joba throws 2 wild pitches in his short stint after being called up. Then throws 3 in one inning? C'mon there is definitely something there. That said that didnt cost us the game. Carmona is a good starter but he's not Feller
     
  7. AlioTheFool

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    Joba was not the only one attacked, but he was, by far, the worst. When Mientkiewicz was up before that half-inning, it was starting to get bad. By the time Joba hit the mound, it was a screen of bugs.

    My 9-year-old came out, took one look, and asked "Daddy, is it snowing there?" That's literally how bad it was.

    I strongly attribute Joba's performance that inning to the bugs. Without the bugs, I doubt that tying run scores, and we are just discussing a pitching duel for the ages this morning, and the Yankees aren't a faiure, rather they just happened to get the one big hit in the game.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    They should have halted the game, it was worse then rain and it turns out they know they disappear after awhile which they did.
     
  9. Sundayjack

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    Here's something interesting from today's news:

    This, from the New York Post, under the headline - "A-Rod Admits: 'I'm Pressing'":
    And compare that with this piece from ESPN under the headline: "A-Rod's October Slump Continues After 0-4 Night":

    Who got it wrong? George King or ESPN. I'll go to the Daily News for the tie-break:
    Hmmmm. . . so George got it wrong, and wrong in a HUGE way, if this headline is any indication.

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    I'm aghast!
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    It is interesting how the NY tabloids re-invent the news to suit their needs. That's nothing new though

    That's not even the news of this series anyway, just a sideshow they can't give up on. The real news is that the Yankees have exactly 8 hits in 20 innings and that's what they should be talking about. Especially against Carmona who they easily beat in one game this year and won the second game he started too. Last night everyone of them looked pathetic at the plate against him.
     
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  11. Sundayjack

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    It would be wholly unfair to A-Rod - a player I don't even like - if the Post didn't issue a prominent correction. I'm going to email them.
     
  12. It hurts...bigtime.

    Sometimes it seems like even human nature is against the Yankees:sad:
     
  13. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    You knew we were in trouble when the third horseman of the apocalypse (pestilence) got involved...:)
     
  14. Don

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    That last pitch he threw looked to be about an 80 MPH fastball right down the middle which any high school kid could have hit. You are right in what you say though. It should have never gotten to that pitch. That was the perfect spot to have had Ramirez in for 1 out but he isn't on the roster. He throws a little harder and usually throws strikes right for the git-go. Unfortunately, with Farnsworth you don't know if he will walk the first guy he faces or strike him out. What we needed at that point we didn't have.

    Besides, Torre doesn't "trust" Farnsworth so there was no chance he would be brought in to do what we pay him 6 million a year to do.
     
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  15. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I noticed Matsuzaka couldn't last 5 innings last night after 6 days rest and against a team he had never faced before. What do you think, he will be penciled in as your 5th starter next year or not make the SR at all?
     
  16. nyjunc

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    I hit the button by accident.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Good riddance, get this loser out of town. Obviously it's not all his fault but WHEN WILL THE EXCUSES STOP AND THIS GUY START TO PRODUCE?????? He is 4 for 47 in his last 14 postseason games w/ ZERO RBI! It starts w/ hm, he's our most talented player and has been BY FAR our worst player in october the last 14 game.

    Stop making excuses for the guy, we are about to lose in the 1st rd for the 3rd straight year and this guy has ZERO RBI in any of the series. THREE times he came up w/ a chance to knock in runs and as usual 3times he failed. If he got just ONE little hit in any of those situations we win and we are tied.


    Keep blaming Joe, he's the one who's not hitting, he's the superstar w ZERO RBI in 14 posteason games.

    You did notice Duncan got a big PH in game, right? but you bash Joe for PH duncan? You talk about people who have no clue, you are 1st in line.

    Keep supporting Alex and bashing Joe and keep watching him kill us every year.
     
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  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Facts are 4 for 47(.085) w/ZERO RBI in his last 14 postseason games.

    BUBBA CROSBY has more RBI in that span. think about that.
     
  19. Don

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    And still has a higher OBP in this series then any of your heroes...now just think about how stupid you look. You are obsessed with one player and completely ignore the real problem. Torre's mismanagement of this team for the last three years. Three years in a row he decides to start resting people for the last two weeks of the season. Three years in a row everybody looks like shit when the playoffs start. Sure, Jeter had two good series, Abreu had one and Giambi had one. Freaky things happen. As a team, however, we batted .253, .246 and this year a whopping .121 in the first two games.

    The good riddance of all of this will be when Torre is kicked out of town.
     
  20. EcKo151

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    Yes his postseason(s) have been garbage...

    But without the season ARod had, the Yanks aren't in the Postseason. He was great in the 9th inning, had walks-offs, go-ahead runs, WON games by himself...And he's the only guy on the team who can do that.

    If they keep him, great...But if they let him go? Who can replace that? Nobody can match those numbers, and NOBODY can carry the Yankees like he did when they were almost dead.

    I see both arguments, but their is absolutely no alternative to replacing ARod. I do find it weird that both Soriano and ARod just cannot do anything in the Postseason.
     

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