2007 ALDS Yankees-Indians

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  1. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    It'll still be a small sample size, at least with Carmona.
     
  2. Pride

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    No excuses,in game if A-Rod struggles versus Byrd n Westbrook in game 3 n 4 then u can hit your 800 homers somewhere else
     
  3. Scruggy

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    Um, are we panicking yet?
     
  4. Sundayjack

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    Well, I was one of them, and far be it for me to support a Yankee argument. I'm not saying that it was skewed toward the Injuns, but I saw some strikes that just weren't strikes.
     
  5. AlioTheFool

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    Okay, once and for all, I'm going to talk about ARod, since the douchebag Yankees fans who obviously cannot understand the game of baseball are going to drive him right out of the city. Yes junc, I'm talking to you.

    NOT ONE FU*KING PERSON IN THIS ENTIRE FU*KING LINEUP IS HITTING THE BASEBALL.

    Yes, ARod is obviously pressuring himself, but WTF is he SUPPOSED to do? He's the only person on the whole damn team who has picked up the slack all frigging year.

    You can talk all the bullshit you want about how you don't want a guy who performs all year, then disappears in the playoffs, but we wouldn't even BE IN THE PLAYOFFS without Alex Rodriguez.

    And as for guys who hit during the year then disappear in October, your girlfriend Jeter getting a FU*KING SINGLE isn't all that impressive. How about Jorge? .336 during the year. What's he hitting in October? And people said HE could have won the MVP award. How about a guy you and I have argued about many times, Matsui? Total piece of imported shit.

    And lets not forget your buddy Joe Torre. Why the FU*K is he pinch hitting Duncan two games in row, when Duncan is 0 for EVERY PH AT-BAT IN HIS MLB CAREER, when Giambi is sitting on the bench?

    I'm really sick of seeing you post junc. You obviously haven't got a clue how the game of baseball works. Perhaps if Alex didn't have to carry the entire fu*king team on his back for the entire season, he wouldn't have to press so hard?

    Amazing that he was a .346 post-season hitter, UNTIL the GYC, when suddenly the ENTIRE FU*KING LINEUP WENT COLD PERMANENTLY.

    But why muddle the argument with facts when we can deal in cold juncian logic.

    When he leaves the Yankees, and we're left with shit for it, I'll thank you and all those like you for helping to finally ruin my love of the team once and for all.
     
  6. AlioTheFool

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    Cakes, seriously, the pitch calls were bad tonight. And they were quite inconsistent too. That pitch going thigh high over the right hand side of the plate was consistently a strike on Yankee hitters, and consistently a ball on the Indians.

    I tried really hard to think it was just my homerism, but honestly, that pitch calling was atrocious. Granted, it doesn't change the fact that we couldn't hit, but it probably affected the outcome of the game in terms of that run that scored on the wild pitch. That inning was over long before that, but the ump extended it.
     
  7. davecrazy

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    This loss really has to bug you guys
     
  8. Cakes

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    Well, if you guys are right about it, maybe the umpire will be sent home for the remainder of the postseason.
     
  9. AlioTheFool

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    Doesn't really help us at this point, so I don't care anymore.
     
  10. MisterMoss

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    I really can't blame A-rod for anything. One of his biggest problems in postseasons past is that he would have HORRIBLE at bats. He would be down 0-2 on every count, swinging wildly, not confident. He looks more confident at the plate, and he's having solid at bats in these two games...fouling balls off, drawing 2 walks yesterday, etc. I'd like to think that he's past all this stuff at this point.

    Oh, and the ump sucked. And this loss isn't on Torre. I don't see how.
     
  11. EcKo151

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    4 runs in two games is pitiful.

    3 hits tonight...Way to come out swinging guys...

    Thanks Andy, once again you showed you're a big game pitcher and are reliable.
     
  12. Exit 117

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    Before you get on the ump for the strikezone, get on your offense for not outscoring the Indians, who left 19 runners on base.
     
  13. EcKo151

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    It's not, Torre can't swing for the guys...

    But do you think he could take some notes from across the dugout and see how many times Wedge BUNTS to put his runner(s) in scoring position?

    Then again, the Yanks have to get on base.
     
  14. AlioTheFool

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    I did.

    It's just not right to steal strikes from a pitcher. That's what the postseason is supposed to be. The best pitching in the league. Carmona was awesome tonight, but the Yankees' pitching was very good too.
     
  15. MisterMoss

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    I felt that Wedge shot himself in the foot many times with the bunt. I wouldn't have bunted in that last inning. Put Lofton in motion and save an out. I really didn't understand it to be honest with you. The Yankees were in a perfect position for a double play after all that.
     
  16. MisterMoss

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    I totally agree. Our offense was bad, but I do chalk a lot of that to Carmona, who was absolute filth today. It's discouraging.
     
  17. EcKo151

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    But he at least is aggressive...He runs his players, hit and run, bunts...

    Quite frankly he is out-managing Torre...He's playing small ball and being proactive...
     
  18. AlioTheFool

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    I'm not blaming Joe. I only pointed out the Duncan/Giambi thing because I think it was a mistake to not use Giambi, but it didn't change the outcome. I was more just trying to point out that there is more than enough blame to go around without pointing a finger at ARod.

    But obviously, there's only one guy still left doing that. He's also the guy telling us that Thomas Jones can only gain yards behind Chad Pennington. :rolleyes:
     
  19. AlioTheFool

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    Just like Joe used to do when the Yankees actually used to win postseason series.
     
  20. Pride

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    Pun intended? Yes and Yes
     

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