Leave it to Laveranues Coles, with his tell-it-like-it-is personality, to capture the current state of the Jets' offense. Asked if they're in a slump, he answered without hesitation. "I don't think we've put up huge numbers, period, all year, so it can't be a slump for us," he said. "We just do what we do." It came out as a funny remark, but Coles didn't intend it that way. It's the truth So, the Jets do what they do, keep games close because they can't score all the time and hope for a win. UNFRIGGEN BELIEVABLE
Some close to the Jets believe Pennington's sprained right ankle, still not 100%, is affecting his arm strength. As a righthanded passer, he uses his right foot to plant. THAT IS A LAME EXCUSE...
No protection for the qb means you have no choice but to get rid of the ball as quick as possiable. Then you add the fact that chad isnt the greatest at getting the ball down field and you end where the jets are. Plus lets not forget the running game wont get going with no line. The problem is the line
Our big play guys are getting the ball in space to make plays. Let face it CP with not throw a bomb so we depend on our play makers. Problem is when the get/catch the ball, defenders are all around them so they do not get a chance to make plays. We have got to get Brad Smith and Leon Washington the ball, those two guys can produce the big play.
Kellen Clemens didn't seem to have much trouble getting the ball down the field. Pennington is a scared puppy dog.
Everyone wants to blame the line for CP problem. There isn't a problem with the OL, but you can't expect to sit in the pocket allday either.
Huh? CP gets rid of the ball pretty damn quick, how else would you hit 5-10 yard outs/crossing patterns? You just lost all credibility if you believe that =)
In passblocking, our offensive line has progressed fine, and is doing a great job.... They shut down Jason Taylor and Aaron Shobel two weeks in a row..... Chad was only touched twice last week by my count.... And Chad's been holding on to the ball for a while.... You can see him looking from player to player and then checking down on every pass play... Oh, and BTW, he does NOT hit 5-10 yard outs.... If he throws an our any farther than 6 or 7 yards, the defenders jump it (see pick #1) and either knock it down, pick it, or nail the WR....
I think what he's saying is that it's not the o-lines fault Penny isn't taking shots downfield. Clemens went downfield more times in his one game than Pennington has all season. I guess the O-line miraculously played like pro-bowlers Clemens was in?
It's time to stop defending Chad. Clemens took shots in that Raven game and was able to get the ball down the field. In the 4th Qtr he threw more decent downfield passes than Chad has throw in 8 years! It not his ankle or lack of a running game. How many 3 yard passes did he complete last week? Checkdown Chad did not even look to throw the ball downfield until he had to.
This is like 5 years now we're talking about no down feild game or how long it takes for a Penny rainbow to reach the pot of gold in the end zone. This is a dead issue . We will never see a verticle game with Penny behind center , unless he pressure by the coaching staff to make those kinds of throws or if there a blown coverage. I still say he starts until the season id unsalvagable , then we hand the rains over to Kellen. Its a tough nut to swallow but it is what it is!
posted this in another thread but it applies here too dude thats not fact. theres two schools of thought. your either better at running the ball. so you run to open up the pass, or vice versa. with our recievers and lack of run blocking we HAVE, i mean HAVE to pass to open up the run. thing is. chad penningtons throws are nothing more than glorified forward screens. allowing teams to play zone with 8 in the box prepared for both our run and passes. thing is, people say the strong arm is overrated, only if thats ther only asset that qb has, but clemens is also pretty mobile which also helps behind our patchy o line. the deep ball keeps defenses honest, especially with who we have at reciever you send cotch and coles deep on the same play a DC will hope both corners have perfect assistance from both Safeties. also on these shorter passes, Clemens can get the ball there faster. penningtons accuracy doesnt mean shit if your throwing 15 yards and under. if you cant deliver a ball to a target within 15 yards get the fuck out of the NFL right now. i know our line sucks but theyre not all that bad at pass blocking. its the fact our offense is now easy to read cuz we have no vertical passing game. thomas jones quote was good enough for me to realize its officially time to move on. luckily cotchery is such a good teammate. if he had an ego chad would be under the bus by now.
another contributor has to be our lousy defense. if we throw 3 incomplete down field passes, and punt, we could be trailing any game 14-0 before we get the ball for a 2nd time. its the parcells method, good d, ball control,excellent line battles all game to our favor, field position, etc..... we cant do anything our lines suck!!! football is won in the trenches, there is no other questions to it!!!!
With our D do you think we will be winning many 14-10 games this year? With that said can Chad put up 30 a game? NO! It's Clemens time!
do you honestly think clemens can put up 30? with either line we have we wont win many games at all, thats my gripe. if teams knew clemens would start and had a week to prepare, they would eat him, and our offense. clemens is no elway, marino, farve, etc.... he is a 2nd year qb that didnt do his homework last year. within the next 2-3 years, or until chad get cracked, we will get clemens.
They would have a week to prepare for what? The Unknown. Nobody knows how to Game plan Clemens yet. We don't know if Clemens can put up 30 but we both know Chad Can't! He played one game against the Ravens and spent the first half on his back or running for his life. You will basically support Chad until the Jets cut him right? He can put 10 points on the board against the likes of buffalo and you will still sing his praises correct?
Like I said in other posts, the Jets organization and the people that come to this team become very soft. They don't want to hurt players feelings so they leave them until they get hurt on the field. It's crazy, but it's been like this for a long time. I hope Mangini gets his BALLS back and start kicking these guys in the ass.
no my bitch is our front office didnt up grade the areas that are killing us right now, on both sides. putting in our future qb for the sake of the unknown may destroy us long term, if clemens is our future. chad has the brains to counter some things, clemens does not.our lines if improved would make the lynch chad threads go away, and the wins come back. until then any player in the nfl at the qb position wont help this team.so how does risking our future? why not let clemens get as cerebral as chad on the offense?
