Very well. We won the division, pennant and took the World Champs to the limit in probably the most exciting World Series ever. How did it turn out for Boston?
Derick Jeter will Go Down As one Of The Most Clutch Ballplayers ever to Play The Game In NYC . Its Like Clock Work. Come fall,The guy Is a Machine.... Case Closed....
uh, no he hasnt. Jeter is in the top 5 all time NY athletes. he is unabashedly the best shortstop in ny (now more than ever) all time. he is one of the greatest yankees in the history of the organization. people try to trash talk DJ, but the guy is just a winner. hes proven his ability to up his game when it matters most and while he isnt the greatest fielder is def very solid. what i wonder is if he will play his entire career at SS. in a few years his body will have taken an increadible beating and getting older. i wonder if he slides to third a la crap ripkin.
hmm..the best short stop in NY happens to be playing third base for the Yankees right now and I'm not sure Jeter is even in the top five Yankees much less NY sports players. He certainly doesn't top Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle. If I think hard enough I'm sure there is another old Yankee I'm forgetting too. Well, forgetting the Yankees there is Mays. So no, he's not in the top 5 even in baseball.
I like Jeter. I think he's a great player. Just not as much as you apparently do. NY has had a lot of great players and that's where we differ. He doesn't come close to the ones I mentioned and won't even if he plays another 10 years.
we are in the playoffs boys, shame on those who thought the yankees had no shot, (mets fans), (redsux fans).
look at mike sweeney is he a bad player from the royals? no he is not, he is hurt alot though, but if jeter and sweeney would be in the same team that team would be so much better. barry bonds is a liability in the outfield but his bat is big, this is why he wants to play in the american league, ortiz hits big but nly contributes to 50% of the game, the 50% is defense.
Ok, i re-read it and I'm not arguing with any of what you said in the original post. I am arguing with saying he is one of the top 5 athletes in NY history. He isn't.
Mantle and Mays were both 5 tool players. Jeter is maybe a 3 tool player at best. How can you say that based on hits alone?
The difficulty and the presteige of the record. And regarding the tools of baseball. Can Jeter Field? - Yes Can Jeter Run? - Yes Can Jeter Throw? - Yes Can Jeter Hit? - Yes Can Jeter Hit with power - Yes, but mostly in the clutch So I have Jeter as a 4 1/2 Tool Player
I've been fighting a hangover for the better part of this morning. (I'm was sent to training in Miami this week) I can safely say this thread was the straw that broke the camel's back. I had to sprint out of my class to the bathroom after reading the OP. Thanks for nothing.
and speaking of the ny post.... http://www.nypost.com/seven/10032007/sports/yankees/mr__autumn_atic.htm MR. AUTUMN-ATIC JETER NEVER FAILS TO SHINE WHEN CALENDAR TURNS TO FALL October 3, 2007 -- THE night Derek Jeter reached the 200-hit level for the fourth straight season and the sixth time in his career, he was never asked about it, and, of course, he never brought it up. When you ask Jeter about his greatest season as a Yankee, it's never about numbers, only rings. He has had four great seasons, four championship seasons. The boxscore doesn't tell him he has had a good game. The final score is the judge. Win and it's a good day. Even though Jeter wears No. 2 on his back, he will always be No. 1 in the hearts of Yankee fans. Alex Rodriguez is the American League MVP, the best player in the game, no question, but Jeter is Captain Clutch and always will be because of his singular winning approach. If you listen closely to what A-Rod is saying this season, he has learned from Jeter and always talks about winning. The night the Yankees clinched a playoff berth, they were trailing the Devil Rays until Jeter blasted a solo home run to lead off the fourth inning. When the Yankees took the field in the bottom of the inning, Rodriguez left his third-base position to go over to give Jeter a congratulatory fist bump. That said more than any words could. Winning is all that matters to Jeter, and that's why this year has been so satisfying for him. During the All-Star Game in San Francisco, he made it clear the Yankees were not done. After all, Derek Jeter has never played a season in Pinstripes that did not include October. For Jeter, the fun is just beginning. ?It feels good, we're in the playoffs, but you know we have a lot of work left," he says. ?This is the starting point. We haven't accomplished anything yet." That is so Jeter.
Jeter's greatest strength cannot be measured by numbers. He has the look and feel of a winner. “He gets us back into games; he puts us ahead; he makes the big plays. Everything about his game says he's a winner," Johnny Damon said. “The one thing you want to be characterized in this game is a winner, and he's a proven winner year after year." Then, Damon offered the following grand-slam comment: “You just know he is going to get the job done." For Jeter, that's what baseball is all about: Getting the job done no matter what. If you have a sore shoulder like Jeter did earlier in the year, it doesn't matter. Get the job done. If you have an aching knee like Jeter did down the stretch, it doesn't matter. Get the job done. In Derek's World, there are no excuses and no individual statistics. You give your all and you either get the job done or you don't. There is a simple brilliance to that. In Derek's World, there is no second-guessing because everything is in plain sight. Jeter is the ultimate baseball realist. When the Yankees were eight games under .500 and the rest of the baseball world thought they would not make the playoffs for the first time in Jeter's career, he kept the faith. There is no mystical reason why he never strayed off course. “Baseball is such a long season," he says. “You have to let it play out. You don't play the game on paper. It's not over after half a season. You've got to go out there and continue to play." For Jeter, the real season starts now. It doesn't matter that he scored 100 runs for 11th time in 12 full seasons or that he hit over .300 for the fourth straight season and the ninth time in those 12 full seasons. All that matters is the Yankees have another shot at a World Series title. He has the chance to get his fifth ring. That's why Jeter plays the game. He knows nothing is given in baseball. He doesn't live in the past. He forever lives in the baseball moment. Once again it's October, his moment in time.
Jeter is at best an average fielder, average runner, average arm strength and he has never hit with power unless you consider 20 HRs power. The argument can really be made that he is a 1 tool player and Mantle and Mays were 5s. That isn't to say he is deficient in any of the other 4 but he doesn't excel in them which those two did.
This is a great example of perception overtaking reality. Jeter is an excellent player. Over a large enough sample, his play will approach his statistical norms, which are pretty damn good. He's been in the playoffs every year. Because his success rate in the playoffs approximates his success rate generally, he is considered "clutch" because of the success he has had in the playoffs. The problem with this is it overweights his success in the playoffs and under weights his failures. No need to remind anyone when the last championship was. Notice he rarely takes blame for the team failing. Even though he is the cap'n. Point is, the only thing his post season performance proves is that he is a damn good player. Which is nice.
you cannot compare jeter to mays or mantle, jeter is a curtis martin type player, the only diffrence is he gets to the postseason often and gets the job done, he is super clutch, and has the arm of a short stop, and as fast as an average fast runner in MLB, his hitting is sick and is infecting, his awareness is unparellel, his leadership is legendary, his ability to win is uncanny, and he is a player that every baseball player in MLB would love to have in their team. jeter said it himself in an interview, he rather get the hit then the homerun, unless a homerun is needed, and that is exactly what he has done in his career. when he is in the hall of fame we will see if he was really average.
