I have an eye on him, but I don't think he was trash talking there. Even the Mets players thought they were the best team in the NL and didn't warrant trying any harder than they were the last week of the season. There are direct quotes about that.
We can easily ignore anyone who comes in here and tries to defend Willie - they are clearly either trolls or clueless. I will continue to laugh at 3rd for his irrational hatred of Green. Of course he should be back as a lefty bat in both RF and 1B. The biggest problem is that there are far too many players who have to go for there to be that much hope for next year. This reflects the fact that while it's easy to think of this as a collapse, the fact is that this has been a mediocre team for more than two-thirds of the season.
Just saying the Mets were the best team for most of the year... Just get rid of Mota, bring in a new bullpen arm, get Two more starters and one more bat, your set.
That's not what you said. You just said blame it on someone and move on. That's quite different than changing up your pitching staff. Way to backtrack.
Green should be back for 10M next season? I'll pass, that's a little rich for a bench player. If he's willing to sign a 1 year deal at a bench players salary I guess he'd be a better option then someone like say David Newhan.
Willie made the the horrendous decision to start Humber in the first place. And that wasn't an isolated incident. Thus, he needs to go. About Shawn Green, here's an idea: Green plays first, Milledge, in the OF. Or is Green not good enough against lefties to play everyday?
You would have started Dave Williams? I do believe Willie needs to go but to put the blame for this collapse anywhere other than with the players is misguided.
What do you do with Delgado then? The Mets are on the hook for 16M from him next year. They can buy out Green's option for 2M and I'd be shocked if they didn't.
I figured he might be traded. You're right though, that's unlikely, so the buyout would be the way to go.
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/ar...t_id=2241975&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym Minaya stand behind Willie, but he never says that Willie's job is safe, just that he is happy with Willie's body of work. Reading between the lines, I think the Wilbon's want Willie out, and Minaya wants them to stay.
So because Humber started one game, in which he didn't pitch all that bad, Willie needs to go? There is only so much Willie can do with his players. Obviously it's his job to get them ready for the game, but he isn't a player anymore. He doesn't score the runs, he doesn't get the double plays, he doesn't make the nice catches. He prepares his team to win ball games, and the players aren't getting it done. You can argue that perhaps he isn't preparing them enough, but what can be done in practice when you aren't practicing with the other team? I think Willie stays, and he deserves to stay. He turned the Mets, a team full of players that weren't doing anything all that productive, into a over .500 ball club.
Kind of hard to get rid of anybody under contract unless you can find somebody who wants them or you are willing to pay them to sit home and play golf. The Yankees have had these problems for years.
It's still Willie's responsibility to figure out how to put his players in the best position to succeed, and he has failed miserably at that. He still can't figure out the double-switch, gives veterans too much rope to hang themselves, can't manage the bullpen, and can't manage in-game situations, period. He's also a stubborn ass who doesn't get along with the media and doesn't take responsibility for his actions, a la the Herminator. Unfortunately, Willie doesn't provide us with any unintentional comedic brilliance like the Herminator.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Wow you have no idea what you are talking about, he is a poor man's Joe Torre without the 200 million dollar roster
The team Willie got was far more talented than the ones the previous years. The team last year was even more talented. Thanks to Minaya's poor offseason this year's team was less talented. Note how the wins totals track that perfectly. If all a manager can do is have the talent play out, he's not really worth very much, is he? This team's fundamentals are horrible, and that's all the manager's fault. A batter with an OBP of .300 was the leadoff hitter just about every game in the second half of the year, and that's the manager's fault. He kept a minor league pitcher on the bench for all but three innings of work for an entire month, and then started him in the most important game of the year (up to that point) just so another pitcher could get 5 days rest for no apparent reason, and that's the manager's fault. Someone hitting .350 for the past two months is batted 8th in the lineup, while a catcher who is 1-for-22 against the opposing team's starter is not only put in the lineup but batted 7th, and that's the manager's fault. These glaringly obvious examples of incompetence all come from the last 3 or 4 games - there are hundreds more from all of the games beforehand. He's a joke.
We're talking about 3 million over 2 years for Randolph. That's peanuts. The money is not going to stop the Mets from making a change in managers.
I really don't understand why Yankee fans think Willie should stay, and Met fans think he should go. This can't be a coincidence...
What I cant fathom is how this team sat atop the NL east for almost the entire season and then seemingly is bewildered and dominated by any and every team out there, including the bottom dwellers.... I still cant understand the lack of urgency demonstrated by any met player... It boggles my mind.... from what I read... glavine almost fell asleep out there today, and the dtrain wasnt even dominant....wtf happened..... something behind closed doors happened.... i dont know what, but no team.... I repeat NO TEAM collapses like this and I really really wish to God I knew why......
