ah, really? i didn't look at his dimensions, but just seeing him on TV, he looked bigger than D-Rob. and the only other reason i recalled him was because i was watching the game and the commentator said the LSU D-lineman are coached very well in filling their gaps and knowing their responsibilities. i immediately associated that with 3-4. come to think of it, i remember him getting into the backfield a lot, so yeah, you're probably right in that he's better suited for the 4-3. oh well. would he be worth drafting as a DE to start/rotate/eventually take over for Ellis? any good NT prospects coming out?
You're kidding right? This year Drob is FINALLY in the last year of that insane contract his agent talked Boobway into, and you want to resign him? That would about as smart as the $25M EXTENSION we gave Bryan (invisible) Thomas last year when I was hoping we'd finally be free of him.
I like frank okam alot...but he'd likely have to be like Wilfork and start off at 3-4 DE and then work his way into NT type size.. Unfortunately this looks like another year where we are unable to fill the NT need. Back to the 4-3 anyone?
No. Going back to the 4-3 creates more problems than it fixes. In the 4-3, you still need a big DT that eats up space. Remember when we let Jason Ferguson go and the defense took a massive dump? In the 4-3, you have two DTs, the Three-Technique, who is supposed to penetrate the B-gap and the Two Technique, whose responsibility is similar to a NT, taking double teams from the Center and guard on the opposite side of the Three-Technique. In the 4-3 we'd have a good Three-Technique DT (Robertson) but no Two-Technique DT. The end result would be the same as what we're seeing now in the 3-4. Plus we have no edge rusher on the QB's blind side, and blitzes can't be masked as easily as in a 3-4.
How much is Sutton and how much is Mangini? Eric is a defensive specialist. Why does our defense suck?
take it easy there chief...it was an extension worth up to $25mm over 5 years with only $9mm guaranteed. As any one with more than a cursory interest knows, contracts are typically backloaded to make agents and players look good. Even so, $5mm a year based on his play last season isn't outrageous. Furthermore, he probably would have gotten more in free agency.
7/19/2003: Signed a seven-year, $54 million contract. The deal includes $13 million in guarantees, the majority of which was delivered in an option bonus. 2007: $4.975 million, 2008: $6.8 million, 2009: $4.5 million, 2010: Free Agent While he is signed through 2009, the Jets may have to make a decision in this offseason. His cap number for 2008 will be over $8.6mm. If they cut him, the cap hit will be closer to $4mm. Of course, they could extend him as well to make the cap number in 2008 more palatable.
This is true...however 4-3 NT's and edge rushers are alot easier to find than 3-4 NT's and OLB edge rushers. Which is exactly my point.
And I'm saying that we can get a 4-3 NT in the next draft or in the offseason....a 3-4 NT, however, not so much.
no, but this guy was drafted by herm to be the warren sapp of his cover 2 4-3. and he was till ferguson left. whatever the jets chose to pay him initially is their fault. imagine the gall of mangini trying to implement the NE system on a defense riddled with 4-3 built players.
well, you have your opinion and I have mine. Thomas hasn't done squat this year, and that mirrors his play over his first 4 years with the jets. Giving him that extension last year based upon his performance over one half seaon playing a creampuff schedule was foolish, foolish. And yes I know Mangini not Boobway did that AND it was stupid.
It's possible that the only galling act of Mangini upon entering the scene was to make the playoffs last season, raising expectations for this season even though there was little chance they'd be fulfilled. I have to admit that I don't see where the Jets are going to get the 3-4 players from unless they open the pocketbook wide and grab people like Adalius Thomas when they are available. I'd have given the Jets props for trying to do it the right way and build through the draft but the 2007 draft is still unfathomable for me as a rebuilding team. I really like Darrell Revis, much as I liked Aaron Glenn, but I see 1995 and 1996 in our path again if the Jets keep making bad value decisions to get talent. Glenn was just picked on the 12, not traded up for.
