The reason Chad is so divisive to fans

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    You love those unproven plyers, Schaub has started a handful of games. he's off to a great start this year but who knows how long that lasts? We KNOW Chad is a winner and a top QB when healthy.



    Parcells actually gave the 4-3 a chance, a brief chance but a chance nd our best players weren't all strictly 4-3 guyslike we have now. They made vilma, Robrtson and Ellis ineffective when all 3 thrived in a 4-3 system.

    That was the last home game of the year in a 6-10 season when he had 1 weapon to throw to. If that performance happened during a meaningful time he would rightly have been citicized much like he was at Chi in 2002 even though he was having a great season at the time and it was his first year starting.

    he's played really well in his 2 games this season so why is he hearing ths nonsense this year? and w/ Chad we rarely get behind big so he doesn't have to lead us back. usually when teams get down big their chances of winning go down drastically. i know it sound crazy but it's true.


    I didn't knock KC. He was awful for 2 qtrs but over and over I have stated that had more to do w/ inexperience. He finally got comfortable in the 4th and he played really well.

    I am not being hard on KC at all it's the silly anti-Chad folks who I am arguing w/. My point was w/ Chad we beat Baltimore b/c Chad would have picked apart that D w/ the time KC had. That's mot a knock on KC, KC is inexperienced and cannot read a D like Chad at this point.

    When Chad stunk against Chi I said so- what is your point? Again I am NOT going after lemens, I am going after he silly folks who think Clemens should be starting NOW.

    obviously that itle problem of a torn rotator cuff in his throwing shoulder hindered him against Pit and even w/tha we had to mak 1 of 2 makeable kicks to win and could not. Vs. Chi last year he was bad, the D played really well and the O stunk.

    Chad played poorly against Chi But a horrible sequence of play calling in the red zone didn't help and the awful decision to kick an OS kick didn't help either but Chad and the O stunk that day.

    Pitt's D and SD's D were a little different. The Pitt D was alot faster and it's alot harder to win in Pitt than SD.


    By the way, a little tidbit for all te Chad hater. Clemens had his helmet on most of the game, does this make him unclassy? unsupportive of Chad? Just wondering.

    Vinny was still more than capable in '02 and '03.

    The difference was kellen was decisive and didn't hold onto it to long. he had all day to throw all game long bt his decision making was poor. Go back and watch the game again.

    23 secsis enough time and he had more than 2-3 secs. he had 4-5 secs to throw many times.

    The running game started to click in the 4th? Jones had 8 rushes for 21 yards, 2.6 YPC. Yeah the running game really got going in the 4th. We started having more succes b/c KC became more decisiobe, no longer was he holding onto the ball 4-5 secs, taking sakcks or throwing to the wrong receivers. he was quick w/ his decisions and we began to move the ball.


    2-3 secs is about average and KC had alot more time than 2-3 secs on average.
     
  2. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    That Chad does not exist anymore. Post injury CHad is not the franchise QB that we thought we had in 2002. It is just the brutal reality of it. The offensive coaches and Chad himself have done a very good job of planning and executing a gameplan that maximizes the stengths he still has and minimizes the larger weaknesses he has. But that only goes so far. It works well against lesser teams because we allow them to defeat themselves. But it does not work against the teams better than us because with Chad we do not have the ability to outplay them offensively and our defense is just not strong enough to shoulder the whole load. You seem unwilling to admit any of this so I guess I am really speaking to a wall, but this is the core of the problem with Chad. He cannot take us to the next level.
     
  3. FOURTHANDLONG

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    I admit it. But I dwell in reality so that might not count on this board.
     
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  5. johnnysd

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    What do you think of your boy now? If it is anything other than a washed up QB who SUCKS you are really delusionally blinded by your love of Chad. I have been saying for a while he was done, but now everyone can finally see. He is destroying this team.
     
  6. nyjunc

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    You've been saying for a while but you do realize he won 10 games last year and as poorly as he played in the last 5 qtrs let's not pretend he is the only problem. We have no running game and no defense- Chad kept us afloat a year ago w/ no ground game and no D but that can only continue for so long.
     
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    I edited my post because I really do not want a reply from the poster I quoted. Mods please delete
     
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  8. johnnysd

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    I oppose the statement that "HE WON 10 GAMES" last year. We won 10 games with Chad at QB but even last year year it was my view that we won some of those games in spite of Chad. Just because we won does not mean he was the reason, and I am not convinced that we would not have won 8,9, or 10 with someone else at QB even Kellen.
     
  9. nyjunc

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    Chad kept us afloat the firat half of the year when the running game was awful and the D stunk. We would not have won 10 games a year ago if Chad was benched and ramsey was playing.
     
  10. JUNJOBX2199

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    It’s funny you guy's are talking about last year. Last year was last year! In your post you anoint Chad as the reason for us winning 10 games last year. We still were awful in run Blocking , we still had issues with running the 3-4 last year , it was inspector Gadget plays left and right . But we cannot say that 1-4 is Chad’s fault this year. Why not? We still suck on Defense; we still have trouble opening holes for TJones just like Barlow last year. Strange that our standards differ from one year to the next!
     
  11. FOURTHANDLONG

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    Does it even occur to any of you that we played bad teams last year? Only 4 over .500? If Chad could complete some passes down field and keep the D honest the Holes would open for TJones. The problem is most people believed the press clippings from last year and forgot we were supposed to be 6-10. It was easier to believe that we were good as opposed to lucky. This year we have to pay the piper and are getting a sad reality check.
     
  12. Br4d

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    If it looked like we were going to go 6-10 this year I could handle it, because that was at the low end of my realistic expectations. The problem is this looks like a 4-12 or worse team right now and that is just plain unacceptable in the 2nd year of a rebuilding program. I don't know who drove the talent decisions this offseason but I have no doubt at all that that person should be fired.
     
  13. FOURTHANDLONG

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    As bad as we have played I think if Clemens comes in we have a chance to go at least 6-10 and possibly 7-9. We have three very good pass catching receivers and a TE that every analyst in the world says we should throw too and it is not getting done. On Offense we could have the ability to win a shootout. Unfortunately if Tangini wants to stick with the 3-4 we are going to have to use the next 2 drafts to fix our Mess on Defense and the Oline as well.
     
  14. NEJets

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    Because we have so many gay fans who just fall in love with Chad.
     

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