It's really sad...

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by KurtTheJetsFan, Sep 19, 2007.

  1. I've seen a countless number of posts portraying Ferguson as a bust, w/ basically NO objective examples or reasoning behind it. What's funny is anyone W/ actual knowledge of what has gone on on the OL the past 2 games(Anyone who actually pays true attention to it) has maintained that, aside from acouple blunders, he has played VERY well, and has been a lone bright spot along the O-line.

    What's sad is that he's really developing into a great player..but for whatever reason people WANT him to be a bust. Ironically 80% of this board WANTED us to take D' Brick at # 4 two years ago. So why all the second guessing now? Did people really expect him to dominate from day 1? The only OT who dominated from day 1 in basically NFL history was Tony Boselli. Ogden, Jones, Pace, etc all went through growing pains. Could someone explain to me why there is so much off base criticism of the guy? Is it really just blindly blaming him for the problems on the OL??
     
  2. 319-1-x4

    319-1-x4 New Member

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    I wanted Reggie Bush.
     
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    :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
     
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    You're not alone I was hopeful we could have taken USC's finest #5.
     
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    leinart-or-cutler, mangold, mcneil is a nice hindsight option.
     
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    He was somewhat underwhelming last year for a 4th overall pick, though certainly not a bust.

    Seeing him give up the sack that led to CP's injured ankle put him in the spotlight, front and center as an example of the underperforming OL.
     
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    At this point I am voting for trading down if we are anywhere inside 8 unless there is a can't miss (are there any?)
     
  8. EarlytoRise

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    Granted that was on Brick, but Clarke was practically standing there watching the whole thing happen.
     
  9. AnyGivenSunday

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    Right now, I'd say the only sure-fire can't misses are McFadden and Long. Long is more of a LT, so chances are they won't be taking him. And if they were lucky enough to be in a position to draft McFadden, they'd have to. I personally like him more than any other RB prospect in recent memory (including Reggie).

    But the guy to really watch out for is Calais Campbell, DE from Miami. Chances are he's a safe bet to be a top-12 pick, but if he can string together a good season this year, and some nice workouts in the offseason, we could witness another "Super Mario" type rise to the top 2 picks.
     
  10. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Heh, a friend of mine recently called him a "revolving door" in a phone conversation. So of course I had to call him a "human turnstile" in the spirit of it. Ride the subway much? :lol:

    I'm not as down on him as perhaps I should be. I'll wait it out for the year. He gained some weight, big whoop, but a plus. My main concern with him is that he doesn't play mad. Killer instinct seems absent. "I will protect my young!" - I want to see that. Not for lack of trying, but where's it at? He did nearly get Sir Chadwick murdered, let's be real. But that was also a collective effort. I don't think I've said anything new...What's on TV tonight? I'm also hungry and I have to pee. Hehe.
     
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    Agreed!

    Also the sad part is he wasn't even the best OL drafted by the Jets that year.
     
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    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Andre Woodson, but the Jets don't need a quarterback.
     
  13. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    HAH, now if that isn't a grand irony...

    "The Jets don't need a QB"! Get a load. Bumper sticker material if you ask me. I know what you mean, but good stuff no matter how you slice it. :lol:
     
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    But that is exactly what I have seen Clarke do on any number of plays. he has looked lost out there more times than not.
     
  15. EarlytoRise

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    haha So that ("The Jets don't need a QB"!) is a declaration that Kellen can win us a SB?
     
  16. I actually like Long more as an RT than an LT. His first 2 years at Michigan he played RT and was very effective. He doesnt have the best athleticism in the world and obviously is a hard nosed run blocker...I like him more as a power RT guy w/ top notch pass protecting potential.

    Also, watch out for Quentin Groves. He has a Merriman-esque first step and shows frightening speed and power to the QB..he'd be perfect in our 3-4 scheme.
     
  17. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    It's flat out funny all around - in a multi-layered sort of way.
     
  18. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Actually, I don't see any humor in it. The Jets drafted Kellen Clemens early in the 2006 draft. They did this because they believe he will be the franchise QB.
    As for Woodson, the Jets would have to be absolutely horrendous to be in position to draft him. He's going to be drafted 1st, 2nd, or 3rd overall, unless the Falcons are the only team in desperate need of a QB and they opt to draft Brian Brohm.
     
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    I think the fact that no one so far except Jetcane is even trying to answer your question supports your view. You're right. D'brick has not been great, but anyone who expected him to be from the get-go is really underestimating the difficulty of the position.

    People see a sack from the left side and blame brick b/c they don't really understand blockng schemes and how each player relies on others to react to what they're seeing pre & post snap. I agree with JC about Clarke...and the FBs and TEs are part of the scheme as well.

    I laugh at the term "skill positions"...as if EVERY position isn't one.
     
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    My feeling is that on a whole Brick has been good. He has some awful plays which make him look terrible but on the average he does what is needed on a given play.

    I think the issue is that most people expect that a left tackle is going to be Pace, Ogden and just dominate from the start by pure talent alone. The bottom line is that brick does not have that body and for him to be a great player he will have to become a top technique lineman which he is not yet. The expectations for him have to be different. Remember week in and week out he is trying to block the best of the best.
     

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