Randy Moss will grab all the headlines, he was spectacular, but the addition of Wes Welker was just as damaging as I thought it would be back in the spring when I was bemoaning the signing and I got abused by people. Welker is a speedy, smart, precise route runner...the kind of guy that Brady loves and looks for. He'll be his blitz check down, his 3rd down guy, and you can see, they already have great chemisty.
Welker is a solid possession receiver - nothing more. There are plenty of guys like him in the NFL. The only reason he is getting respect now is cuz he was signed by the Patriots. I do agree that Welker is going to have a solid year as Brady's third down pet. I'm just saying that he's nothing special.
--His talent as a receiver may not be up to par with a lot of other receivers in the league, but he is very versatile. He was one of the pest punt returners last year (best in dolphins history), and is a solid blocker to go along with his receiving skills.
welker had 2 bad drops today, one that cost the pats a first down when there was absolutely no one around him and another one in the red zone that ticked up into the air and was almost picked off by a jets db, who would've returned it for 90 yards and a td if he came up with it. brady went to him often early but once he saw he could throw to moss at will welker pretty much disappeared in the 2nd half.
Ha ha. Yes. Good point. I was speaking more to all the Wes Welker hype and not the Chrebet comparison.
that's exactly why i put you in the same class as all the other no nothing experts on this board. you don't know sh*t about football.. it's not what welker would be on other football teams. it's what welker is going to be on this pats football team. so many said the pats over paid for him, but when all is said and done this season, i'll bet he end's up a steal. same as all the clowns that were talking about how moss was a has been b/c he hasn't done anything the past two or three years. that was then with those teams he was on. this is now with the pats and a guy named brady chucking him the rock. did any of the know it alls watch todays game. i notice they're not talking the same crap on this board today. in fact, i notice a lot of the know it alls aren't even posting much today(whinning in their beer, probably). i get bashed for not being a so called jets fan(homer is more like it), and i call it like i see it. said all along this pats team was stacked and people attacked me for just being an honest football fan. i don't mind the attacks, it shows how little they actually know about football, like you!! nothing
Basically your argument is that a guy might be a mediocre football player but, once Brady starts throwing him those accurate passes, he becomes a star. To that I say, sure. But that's obvious. I'm talking about Welker just based on his ability and not his situation. The Pats could sign any WR and he would have success (see Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney). It's not particularly insightful to say a WR is going to do well on the Pats. I never said Welker would not have success. I'm just saying that, once he got signed to the Pats, people started blurring the situation with his skills and making him out to be more than he actually is. I don't know why that means I don't know anything about football but you're entitled to your opinion.
Never...ever...try to compare a Pats player to #80 again. That's like comparing Darth Vader to Luke Skywalker. Similar styles, but one is pure evil.
i'm saying your like a lot of others who post here. you see only what you want to see and can't seem to look objectively to what his skill set to that particular team will actually mean. to most teams, welker is a 4th or 5th reciever. but to the pats and they way they intend to use him, he's dangerous and a first down machine. same with moss! many here were down playing his signing and claiming him to be washed up. did it look that way to you today?? this is only their first game of the season. what are they going to look like towards the end of the season. i got bashed by some for saying the very thing we just saw happen today. welker,moss and stallworth are going to be a handfull.
We left welker wide open on that first drive, he did nothing after that and overall he had his 10 yd rec avg which is what he is. he's an overpaid, average #3 WR.
he had single coverage in the first half. then got double teamed in the second. double teaming a slot reciever says a lot about what mangini thinks of the guy. obviously, more than most here. no nfl team double ups a average slot reciever!
Welker cought 67 balls with Joey Harrington throwing to him last year. The guy was a machine in college catching balls. The guy can flat out play. Is he a big time number 1 WR absolutely not but he is a very good slot guy with excellent hands who is going to catch a lot of balls and will be a handfull for most nickel and dime packages in this league.
hes good but one thing he does ALOT that Chrebet never did is try to run before hes even caught the pass. even in some of his completions he did it but maintained control. he'll be solid but if he keeps it up i could see him fumbling alot too.
Brady went away from Welker because he realized the Jets weren't close to tagging him and he had the luxury of looking for his deep receivers. This week vs. a tough SD defense, Brady will play it closer to the vest, and WELKER WILL HAVE AT LEAST 10 CATCHES. It's interesting to hear the way people are downgrading this guy, it's basically the way the rest of the league would talk about Wayne. People remember the TD guys, but it's these kinds of players that make the TDs possible.
Welker is not a "poor man's Wayne Chrebet". He is at a similar level. His hands are not as good as Chrebet's, but Welker is faster. He's going to put up stats similar to those of Chrebet and Welker is going to be a handful all year. I'm still not sold on Moss. I have to see it for 16 weeks and the playoffs. He was also excellent in his Raiders debut. The Jets secondary play was absolute garbage yesterday. He's going to face better secondaries the rest of the way.
