OK Mangenioues Can switch to 4 - 3 Now?

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  1. buddapaw

    buddapaw Well-Known Member

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    This frickin square peg in round hole bullshit needs to end, I've been harping on it all of last year. We don't have the personnel to play 3 - 4 , our D-Line is too small. WHY THE FUCK CAN'T YOU SEE THIS, MANGINI? Every man player on your defense play better in the 4 - 3 set. Can we stop acting like this asshole is some sort of genius, when he is constantly trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
     
  2. jetfan51

    jetfan51 New Member

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    who are your front 4 and the back 3 using the 4-3
     
  3. SonofDinger

    SonofDinger Well-Known Member

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    What's a "Mangenioues"? Is that French?
     
  4. ScotsJet

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    We've been moaning about the lack of a pass rush for 5 years, the 4-3 was no better for us, except in 04, which was a freak run.
     
  5. LockDown24

    LockDown24 Active Member

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    I can understand why last year might not have been so great becuase he was working with Herm's leftovers, but we needed to make some moves this offsesaon for the 3-4 to work and nothing was done. Signing Coleman? Yeah thats nice but its not gonna work, we needed to address the NT position and NOTHING was done.
     
  6. Br4d

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    RE - Bryan Thomas
    RT - Kenyon Coleman
    LT - Dewayne Robertson
    LE - Shaun Ellis
    ROLB - David Harris
    MLB - Jonathan Vilma
    LOLB - Eric Barton

    They really can't be worse than what we have in the 3-4 right now.
     
  7. jetfan51

    jetfan51 New Member

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    it sucks that gabe watson and alan branch was passed for couple rounds and jets didn't consider neither
     
  8. ScotsJet

    ScotsJet Active Member

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    Thomas sucked outright as a DE for 3 years. He'd be devastated by that move.
     
  9. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    THe 3-4 is here to stay. Mangini is not going to stray from his plan.
     
  10. jetfan51

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    he should otherwise jets gonna finish last in the division
     
  11. onefanjet

    onefanjet Well-Known Member

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    this was the biggest ASS WHOOPIN' any defense has taken... 43/34... in a while, i hope we have learned somthin after today........
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Right, now that the team has turned the personnel upside down and committed to the 3-4, let's switch up again. In fact, let's change schemes every year. It worked for Herm. Right?
     
  13. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Actually just Vilma and Robertson.
     
  14. Twombles

    Twombles Active Member

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    Hahahaha.
    At least someone isn't depressed
     
  15. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Let's not forget 2 years in a row this FO failed to address the pass rushing situation during the off-season. Instead of drafting a pass rushing 3-4 OLB/DE hybrid, we elect to draft 2 ILBs in day 1 of the 2006 and 2007 drafts. A guy like Mark Anderson would like real nice playing opposite Thomas at ROLB.
     
  16. KOWIE

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    thats exactly what i thought when i saw this...:up:
     
  17. The Kramsta

    The Kramsta New Member

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    I wouldn't of mind keeping the 3-4 because of it's versatility, but it seems that the FO make no attempt to bring in a NT or the pass-rushers we need to have a successful defense...
     
  18. Rod_2

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    I said that last year and people thought I didn't know what I was talking about.
    My case,
    Ellis was consider a bust in the 3-4. In the 4-3 he was pro bowl type.
    Vilma was a rising star. Establishing himself as one of the LEAGUES top young players.
    You put in a system that negate your best players strength and exploit their weakness.
    If you notice, last year, the "D" improved later in the seasons when they used the 4-3 more.
    Just a thought.
     
  19. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Ellis was great in the 3-4, what the hell are you talking about?
     
  20. Br4d

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    I don't think Ellis ever played in the 3-4? Groh brought the fulltime 4-3 with him in 2000 (Ellis, Ferguson, Lyle/Burton, Logan) and then Herm went with the 4-3 again in 2001.

    It's possible they went out of the 3-4 for some series in 2000 but I don't remember it being a feature of the Jet's D that year.
     

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