Jones seems to be locked into the second team OL. He is depth. If someone goes down, he'll be there to step in, though there will be a dropoff in talent. Solid second teamer, unable to beat out Clement at RT.
I guess you took it wrong then. My point WAS that it is better to give that experience to Bender or Clarke - quality players in the NFL are more of a product of nurturing than of talent. Also, I did point out that Chad might get injured, but that doesn't necessarily mean I am expecting it. I know that Jets now are a better team with him than without. I'm just pointing out that, should Chad go down in injury due to the inexperienced line in front, still it's not as calamitous as you would think.
I've always respected your opinions, MDBigDog, but can we go over your points one by one? If he did want to play for the Jets, he sure had a funny way of bonding with the coaching staff and FO. As for the money, I don't know how many times it's got to be explained on this board. I for one am totally worn out going over "it wasn't all that much more money." He restructured, then pocketed the signing bonus, then went back to the well a year later. For the Jets to even cave on $1 per year sets a horrible precedent, so I'm sorry, but this shouldn't be one of your arguments in the "Our FO screwed up" theory. Mentoring and tutoring is all well and good and in fact, is a plus in the "Mangini Guy" category. But he's not a coach, wasn't hired to be a coach and we have very capable coaches for that very job. And seriously, don't you expect a guy to pitch in and be a team guy? Why does everyone think this was something extraordinary? Many older team players mentor and give advice. Besides, Mangold and Brick were excellent raw talent who received help from many people. And Bender will be fine without Kendall's influence, all of which really has nothing to do with the original rub with Kendall, him wanting a new contract and throwing a public temper tantrum when he didn't couldn't get it and didn't deserve it. So please cast this argument aside in the "Our FO screwed up" campaign as well. No, they didn't. The FO always wanted to renegotiate with Moore and did not want to renegitiate with Kendall and they made this crystal clear to all parties. Now that Kendall is gone, we can renegotiate Moore's contract peacefully and professionally, unencumbered by Kendall's constant background drone of ninny-whining, baby bottle-throwing and rattle-slapping on his high chair. This definitely doesn't fit the "Our FO screwed up" category, but should rather be cause for applause, IMO. Who cares what Kendall was happy with? We used him in camp as we saw fit, for purposes of our own liking and wherever and whenever we so chose. That's the way it is. As for "seeming" petty, there was a purpose for giving Clarke, for example, plenty of snaps with the 1st team, for the very reason that surfaced yesterday. "Petty" has nothing to do with it and getting ready for the season without Kendall has everything to do with it. Therefore, please discard this argument from your "Our FO screwed up" repertoire as well. I can't for the life of me understand why people still link Revis to anything Kendall. Two different situations, two different players and two completely different contract disputes. About the only thing they have in common is the same agent. But then again, they both like strawberry ice cream too, and so does Coles, so perhaps we should include Coles in this as well. My point being, it seems you're back to "Our FO screwed up" again and grabbing at Revis as an example. Please, the FO did what it had to do in both situations, but they are alike as night and day.
I'm surprised also. I'm guessing it's because the team does not think he's physical enough to play guard in the NFL. He was not doing very well at RT before the Fabini injury and he didn't do all that well at LT either. All of that said he might well be a better fit at RT than LG. Given who the Jets have played on the OL in 2006 and so far in TC in 2007 I've been a bit surprised that Jones hasn't gotten more of a look.
He gets looked at every day. Clement and Moore are the CS's choice on the right side, where they are trying to create some stability. They look at tape of the tc's, and must not see enough of what they want to have Jones work with the first team. But he is on the field just about every rep with the second team. They seem to be more comfortable with A.C. protecting the edge. And btw, the edge is where Bender had problems, which led them to try him at LG.
I have faith in the CS. Pete wouldn't have gotten traded unless they already got his replacement. Plus they got a decent draft pick for him. The worst that can happen is Chad gets hurt again and we get a backup QB that can throw the ball downfield and possibly a better QB than Chad, thats all.
to all you kendall haters. that was bender who got pancaked on the jets second drive. what a mess the jets FO made of the LG position. Trading Kendall will be one of the biggest mistakes they make this season. Kendall Haters whos gonna play LG this season for the jets.
while i think mangold is a great center, and he will be in the probowl in the near future, kendall had a lot in the way of teaching him how to be, and to be his own man. kendall had a hand in mangolds success....if you want to get assy about it, we can say PK was the second best lineman we had, by far the best guard on the squad. unless we can pick up a gem in the rough like we did when we got PK after Zona cut him....we gonna have some big issues early on. and those are games we cant afford to push in players that arent good enough to play into that position. who knows, maybe this will have a bad effect and maybe penny gets blasted from poor pass protection on the left side and then KC comes in to play.
Tannenbaum allowed it to get personal between him and Kendall. No GM in his right mind trades your starting LG unless he has a player ready to take that position.After watching Bender/Clarke play it's clear they don't have a LG. Look for Tannenbaum to beg,borrow or steal to get a veteran Guard signed after Tuesday's cutdown. Also a trade isn't out of the question either.
Wrong Wrong Wrong Huge Mistake Letting Kendall Go I Said It Before They Let Him Go And Im Saying It Again The FRONT OFFICES God Damn Pride Or Cockness Got In The Way Of The Team And They Traded Away Our Most Exp. OL Away For Nothing. If Last Nights Game Wasnt Enough Proof That We Needed Him Then Nothing Will Prove It To All You Kendall Haters.
When Bradway made a bad move I wouldn't be happy either but there is no need to blindly accept what these guys do either. What I am saying about Revis is that every other player in the draft around Revis was getting a 5 year deal which was the norm and we were trying to make him a 6 year deal. Granted I don't know all the facts (none of us ever really do) but to me getting revis in camp would be more important then holding on to the extra year unless there is some major reason we needed to do a 6 year deal and right now I just can't see that reason. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mike T doesn't know what he's doing but I didn't understand this one move. Nor do I think the Kendall move was the best for the team. Again, I'm not going to call for anyone's head but watching the Jets/Giants game our line really missed Kendall.
Section I typically respect your posts too but I'm a bit confused here. Where did I ever say they screwed up? My point was that I personally did not like this move and that according to what I ready Kendall wanted to be here. His relationship with the coaching staff who was part of the "other side" of the negotiation has nothing to do with his desire to be here. It's his actions with his teammates that show his true intentions. Also, with Revis I pointed out another situation where I didn't agree with the FO but again where did I say anything about them screwing up. All I pointed out was that most every other draft pick was getting a 5 year deal and we wanted Revis to sign a 6 year deal and if that was the sticking point I don't see why the FO let that keep Revis out of camp. People need to realize that while there are some posters who go to one extreme or another, actually agreeing or disagreeing with the FO or a move does NOT equal saying the FO can do no wrong or that the FO screwed up.
