Falcons looking to trade for Raiders Qb?

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  1. Raiderjoe

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    NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Falcons "would love to get their hands on" Andrew Walter or Josh McCown.

    The Raiders might be willing to give up either, but would likely ask Atlanta for more in exchange for Walter. McCown would make sense as cheap, short-term insurance behind Joey Harrington, as he's in the final year of his deal.

    Raiders aren't going to trade a QB, till they sign jamarcus russell(Getting close). If raiders do trade with atlanta, I wouldn't be supprised if it was for a tackle(RT only position still a question mark). Tom cable Raiders new oline coach,(was falcons Oline coach last year) and very familiar with their talent. He knows who fits his system and that player has a good chance to step in right away, as he very familiar with the Cable blocking scheme..
     
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    Would make sense to ship Walter out now. He's not the QB of now, he's not the QB of the future, he's not going to want to be a career backup, so get value before he rots on the sidelines for a year or 2.
     
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    Going to be intresting which Qb they trade Andrew Walter, or Josh MCCown.
    Andrew Walter (more of pocket passer) is not as good fit for Raiders New offense, as the offense calls for a mobile QB. Josh MCCown has great mobilty, but can't make some of the throws that Raiders want their Qbs to make. Josh Mccown has looked better in OTa, and A walter in the preseason games.

    Another fact, D Culpepper and Josh MCCo0wn are only on one year contract, if you trade Walter, than next year ,you're left with Jamarcus russell, and no backup QB on the roster.
     
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    but I thought Andrew Walter was the second coming of John Elway?
     
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    NO that would be jamarcus Russell. What I did say A walter going to be a good NFl starting QB. Lets see what kind of career he has, and than come back and tell me how wrong I was.


    Weren't you the poster who said Jets Qb situation was better than the Raiders. Dante Culpepper looks healthy and alot OF Experts(IE Bill OParcells) have him as leading contender for NFL comeback player of the year.
    If culpepper is indeed healthy, than Its not even close. Raiders Qbs versus your Qbs. D culpepper, A walter/J McCown, Jamarcus russell versus Chad Pennington, K Clemens, and Brad smith
    Honestly what QB situation would you rather have.
     
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    I don't remember ever having that argument with you but if you are asking me that question, I surely have an answer. Right now I would rather have the Jets Qb situation than the Raiders, no questions asked.

    I need to see Russell at least practice with the team once before annoiting him the second coming of John Elway. It is beyond ridiculous that the first pick in the draft doesn't get into camp on time, let alone get into camp at all. I would never take Culpepper over Pennington, unless it was for my fantasy team & I thought even before he was drafted by the worst team in the league over the last 4 years that Russell would be the biggest bust of round 1, my opinion hasn't changed yet.
     
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    I love how some people around here (not necessarily you) were all LOL'ing when the Raiders signed Culpepper to a one year contract, like it was a ridiculous move. If he's healthy, nobody in their right mind would suggest he's not a superior quarterback to Pennington. If he's not healthy it's just a one year deal anyway.

    As far as Russell, of course he hasn't proven anything yet. That's why Joe listed him third on their depth chart. Are you saying you'd rather have Brad Smith?
     
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    well I can honestly call you a Homer. IF D culpepper is indeed healthy(everyone that has seen him says thats the case) than its not even close who the better QB.D Culpepper- look up both players stats. K Clemens hasn't completed one pass or started one game in NFL. Brad smith is not an NFL QB.(Makes Michael Vick look like a real Qb) Yet your going to tell me your Qb situation is better. Okay Pass the bong.

    Btw. There no rush to get Jamarcus russell into camp because Raiders were always going to follow the carson Palmer blueprint. Watch from sidelines his rookie year,and than next year become the starting QB.
     
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    I guess I'm not in my right mind then because I would take a healthy Pennington over a healthy Culpepper to win me a game, like I said unless it was a fantasy game.

    As for Russell, right now he is home on the couch so he isn't on your depth chart. So yes for this season I would much rather have Brad Smith considering he will be on the field on Sundays making plays as a WR, RB & QB while Russell is at best holding a clipboard(if he ever signs with the Raiders).
     
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    BTW, every Dolphins fan thought Culpepper was healthy last training camp too. I'll believe it when I see it on the field on Sundays..
     
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    They're both winners. Culpepper is 2-2 in the postseason with two championship game appearances. Chad is 2-3 with no championship game appearances. Why is it so clear cut that you'd rather have Penny if you need to win a game?

    So because Russell is a holdout you'd rather have Smith? I'd wait a few extra weeks for the superior player.
     
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    Fair enough. I felt the same way about Penny when he finally completed a 16 game season last year.
     
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    Look it dosen't matter what raiderjoe or any other raider fans/ other team fanbase says about player. )dosen't hold that much weight) IT does matter when Bill parcells who has seen Culpepper play this offseason.(film at least) Makes the comment, that culpepper leg finally looks healthy, and he has good chance in his opinion to win Comeback player in the NFl.

    Now that is kind of statement that you should take seriously.
     
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    No, it's not. Fact is, he said he was 100% healthy last year, and look at what happened. He needs to prove it before I listen to ANYONE.
     
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    I had this Culpepper argument so often last offseason with the Dolphins fans that I have really lost interest in it. I never thought he was a good Qb, even when he was putting up all those #s in Minny. Only time will tell.

    As for Smith Vs Russell. Obviously if you are going to just compare them as QBs for the future you would take Russell without a doubt. For this season though I would take the guy that is going to contribute in many ways. Smith doesn't really have a position, he is playmaker that will line up at 3 different positions this year while you hope Russell is going to hold the clipboard this year.

    As for your lastr post regarding Penny, I felt that way too and to some degree still do. There will always be injury concerns with Pennington, only difference now is there is a youing QB improving and breathing down his neck.
     
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    NO who cares what a Player says(of course he going to say hes healthy if he wants to play) The fact Is culpepper leg wasn't completely healthy and we know this as the game tape dosen't lie. (couldn't do the things he was accustomed to doing) The experts who have seen Culpepper with Miami last year, say hes moving around alot better in oakland. (Not unexpectly as his leg has more time to heal)

    The Point is IF culpepper is really healthy , than there is no one that would take a Chad Pennington over him. IF you really believe Pennington better than your a bigger jeaux than me.
     
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    Culpepper is a choke artist. Thus he's the perfect addition to a team of misfits known as the Raiders. Healthy or not you guys can have him. Enjoy!! :)
     
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    Again really dosen't matter what you think ,as Culpepper stats , are better than Pennington. Really only thing you can ever judge a QB/ player, and reason why Joe Namath not a hall of famer. (stats are not hall of fame worthy- sorry Joe you had misfortune playing for some really bad Jet teams)

    K Clemens hasn't even started one preseason game yet for Jets , and has no experience whatsoever , and your comfortable with his as your number 2 QB. Raiders number 2 QBs have alot more starting experience than him. All Im going to say you better pray Pennington can stay healthy for 16 games.

    Brad smith is a gimmick. Can't do anything better than raiders Ronald Curry . Who if he played Qb would look better.
     
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    so did we :rofl2:
     
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    because stats are everything right? someone who studies so much should know the game was completely different then.

    get spiteful all you want, point in case is nobody is scared of culpepper anymore. whether that is only because the dolphins rushed him back or whether he is completely done remains to be seen.

    i think the only thing jets fans are trying to get at is, culpepper isnt a sure thing. so if your going to knock penny because culpepper has better stats your really not saying anything.
     

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