Mr. T and Mangenius are wrong

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  1. Rambo13

    Rambo13 New Member

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    You don't think he is capable of being a top NFL Offensive Guard? He was considered one last year by nearly everyone. Why does the view change now? Did he really age that much? Remember, being a bitch and whining the entire camp does not make him less of a player, just less of a man.
     
  2. Section 227. Row 5

    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    Become a Patriots fan immediately! What else is one to do? Killing yourself is a tough option. Moving to Boston is less painless.
     
  3. Jetcane

    Jetcane New Member

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    That's not good, right?


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  4. Justwinit

    Justwinit Active Member

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    You may be right in that Kendall is more suspect in telling the truth. Without being the proverbial fly on the wall, who knows what was and was not said. I am a long time Jets fan and will always side with the Jets but something is just a little fishy here.
     
  5. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Reality the Pats are in our division and Kendall is an undersized guard who was pushed around like a rag doll against Wolfork. The guy is a nice player but if the Jets are depending on an undersized old guard to build their SB team on were screwed.

    Kendall is near the end and is looking to bank his retirenment money, good ridance. We lost some depth on our OL, one of the younger guys who may struggle but ultimately who may give us an upgrade has to step up.
     
  6. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    One of the best guards in the league?? In what world was Pete Kendall ever one of the best guards let alone now that he is past his prime. He has been a good player in this league but has never been one of the best guards.

    I don't see how this is a loss let alone a big loss. The guard play was terrible last year and most likely will be this year with or without Kendall.
     
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    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    The only thing fishy here is Kendall. He signs a contract to pocket a hefty signing bonus, then plays less than a year under this contract and wants to renegotiate a pay increase and disregard the hefty signing bonus he's got in his Vanguard account.

    When the Jets don't agree to this, he takes it public and squeals like he's been bitten on the pecker by one of those lobsters he's been eating too much of off of Cape Cod, where the water is now permiated with too much mercury.

    Why is this guy at all believable? Fishy? The only thing fishy is Kendall's story.
     
  8. Jetcane

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    Ya gotta watch those B.C. guys.

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  9. EcKo151

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    This post got overlooked and it pretty much just hit the nail on the head to perfection.

    I was a little uneasy losing a play such as Kendall for demanding more money...But when you mention Law and Milloy, it gives me more of a perspective and outlook on it...
     
  10. Rambo13

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    Didn't he reduce his salary for the team last season? Could be completely wrong on this, but I thought I read it somewhere that he was making something like 1.5 Million this year. Which to people like us is a lot but with Guards cashing in for $7.0 Million per year nowadays, he was clearly underpaid.
     
  11. Rambo13

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    May I respectfully point out that while Kendall may be old and undersized I do not understand how anyone can say we have a better chance of winning it all with Clarke or Bender in at Guard. Granted, the playing experience they will get could potentially help us in the future (assuming they both don't flame out) but most likely not this year, especially with the two young guys next to them on either side. Remember, I am not saying that a) Kendall wasn't a bitch and b) Bender or Clarke won't pan out. I am simply stating that on talent alone, Kendall would have been a better player for us this year than plugging in Clarke or Bender both of whom have little to no experience.

    I guess I'm just having memories of the Brad-wards days when we seemed to keep our OL together with mud and twigs and let players go year in and year out.
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Kendall made no guaranteed money in his original contract and he got some in return for restructuring to a more cap-friendly deal. Deals like this are for some reason viewed as the player taking a 'paycut' even though the money Kendall got in his signing bonus last season is money he most assuredly would not have seen on the contract he was playing for, ever.

    Although one can never be sure, I always assumed he took that original contract with the Jets, no bonus included, because he got shuffled out of Arizona late in the offseason because he was being a public malcontent and a lockerroom lawyer. Just a guess. Kendall is not much of a victim if you ask me.

    By the way, Kendall must think the fans are idiots to think that he should get a deal based on a VERBAL FRICKING AGREEMENT. This is a billion-dollar industry, verbal agreements are for humor only.
     
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  13. Rambo13

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    Gotcha, thanks for the explanation.
     
  14. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    We are rebuilding and we aren't winning it all with or without Kendall this year. Kendall while better than what we have today isn't good enough to take on our biggest rival NE. He simple has stunk against them and while he might have been adequate against the typical mediocre dregs that make up most of the NFL, he isn't going to be part of an elite team that can challenge for a title.
     
  15. Rambo13

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    Agree to disagree.
     
  16. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    Kendall didn't want to be here, plus he is aging and not all that great anyway. He can be placed, give Bender a shot.
     
  17. ThunderbirdJet

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    Please post a link to "nearly everyone". I sure didn't think so, and neither did a lot of others, not just on this board either. Tell me how many times he ever made the pro bowl. Tell me how many pancake blocks he had last year.

    What he did get credit for, and rightfully so from reporters and coaches alike, was his mentoring of Mangold and Ferguson.... not for superior guard play. Kendall is a very run of the mill average LG at this point in his career. Poor run blocker, used to be able to pull and get outside but no more, and a better than average pass blocker. That is what he is, and it's what he was last year too.

    I see in a later post that you haven't read all the replies here. Kendall made well over 5 MILLION last year. Money in his pocket, pretax dollars, $5,000,000+ last year.

    The mistake that this FO made was drafting Harris, and moving up to do it, while apparently thinking Mangold and Ferguson by themselves fixed the offensive line. this team needed to darft a OG on day one of the draft BADLY... and whiffed. Moore is below average, and Kendall on his best days is barely average.

    They handled the Kendall situation perfectly. He didn't go to Miami, and they got value for him.If you want to say they made a mistake, you would be right, but they did that during the draft, not this Kendall soap opera.
     
  18. Bear66

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    I'm not thrilled to see Kendall go. He was a great pickup 4 years ago, but let's not forget how we got him. Dennis Green wanted no part of him anymore becuase of the lockerroom lawyering. Seems like a little dejavu all over again. Pete is a very proud guy and a fighter. I'd be pissed if I saw other playerswith 1/4 less talent making twice as much as me. Unfortunately, contracts go both ways and you have to man-up and live up to your agreement.

    Kudos to Tanny for getting a 4th rounder for him..considering that all the Raiders got for Randy Moss was a 4th rounder..we got a good deal and much better than any of us thought we'd ever get considering all of the media attention.
     
  19. Downunder

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    This is a professional team isn't it?, surely one ageing player can't be bigger than the team. If he is the cancer he is supposed to be, by reputation in the locker room, then he has to go for the good of the whole team. At some stage the people in charge have to say "enough is enough", time to go
     
  20. jdon

    jdon Well-Known Member

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    the jets feel kendall is slipping. you do not raise someones salary when they are slipping. kendall will probably be so-so this year and worse for the rest of his contract. i do not think it is etched in stone that they will not rework a contract upward. they just will not do it for someone whose skills are diminishing.
     

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