I haven't read the article yet, but I had a feeling that had to be the theme of the article. If it wasn't about Omar and his "under the radar" moves, you wouldn't have guys like Chavez, Maine, Perez, Duque and Joe Smith (got cut out, but was a part of the photo shoot) on the cover instead of Wright, Reyes, etc.
The key aspect you are missing is the fact the General Manager is Hispanic. The story is about the General Manager and how/why he assembled such a diverse team. We all know the 29 other teams have diversity. The Mets right now have the most. By the way, the story is written by Gary Smith. He's a top notch writer. This story should not disappoint.
Because IMO calling some one a "Token" of any race is racist. I guess to you their all latinos or white or black? Well I hate to break it to you but No, a Melting pot is NOT about skin color it's about the actual races. In the Picture There is: a Dominican a Cuban, a Mexican, a Venezuelan an African american and a Caucasian. (How many of these did you actually know?) That is what a Melting Pot is. Not "4 white Dudes and 1 Latino" or "4 Latinos, a black guy and a white guy" That is why I said it sounds like he doesn't know what a Melting Pot is. I'll leave it there cause I don't wanna crap the thread but as I said before, the Cover is well deserved.
Yeah, maybe if you're lumping all Hispanics together and not differentiating them by their nationalities. The key point here is the GM and field manager are minorities. To echo the comments of others, I cannot believe this thread is causing so much arguing. Have we nothing better to do? Thank goodness my home computer is not working. I expect to see this thread buried when I reappear (either tomorrow night, Saturday morning, or Monday night). Play nice, kiddies.
The Mets truly are a melting pot. I love how I can go to a Mets game and at the top of the 2nd watch that clip of Professor Reyes and his spanish lessons, then in the 7th inning its italian themed.
I hate "arguing" with you because you are such a knowledgeable poster. But sometimes you hate to give credit. I think the point of the whole article is that Omar Minaya, a minority GM, hired a minority manager, and has built a mostly minority team. No other major league team has MINORITY management like the Mets. SO, until another major league team has on-control field control like the Mets "minority" management team, why are u having a problem with this?
It's a shame you're only a spectator. You could really make some people angry with some input.. hint hint.
Hahaha, on Mets Pre-Game they just showed the photoshoot for the picture, Joe Smith was supposed to be in it also, he was laying across at the bottom but they didnt have enough room so he got cropped out. Poor Mighty Joe.
Damn Si n there horrible layout, they could have got him in laying on the lap of three guys in the front
Because he doesn't understand that token isn't always an insult, and that John Maine was chosen to be in the picture because he represents a group of white American males on the Mets that are part of Omar's melting pot (33% of the team). It's really a simple concept.
Actually it is. Just calling someone a Token of a Race is absolutely an insult. Now, If you would have just said exactly what you said in the 2nd half of the statement that would've been dead on. John Maine represents the White Americans on the Mets.... exactly! But when you call him a "Token" you are not saying that he is representing, it implies that it's because he is there to appease to avoid confrontation. That's the Difference between him Representing and Being a Token. If you don't think there's anything wrong with that then hey, I'll apologize for trying to clarify but believe me, there is nothing good about calling someone a "Token"
Well, if you read the article, you've seen that it's 8 1/2 pages long, and only two have anything to do with the Mets. Of those two, maybe one is about the large number of Hispanics associated with the team, and the other is about how he brings in people with different skill sets, people who worked with the union, and even a woman as key advisors. In other words, it's a puff piece about Omar, and the supposed impression from the cover actually has little to do with the story. But feel free to carry on arguing anyway.
You still don't get it, "token" is not exclusively a bad or good thing. In this specific case I can 100% gaurauntee that I wasn't using token whitey as an insult because I don't see anything negative or insulting about being a representitive of the white American baseball players on the Mets. Maybe you do. Maybe that's why you're talking about conflict, insults, appeasement, and racism while I'm talking about symbolism and representation... either way I know what I was saying...
I'll probably pick it up tomorrow for the train ride home just to see what it's about. It's not too often the Mets make the cover of SI, in fact I'm sitting next to a framed print of Piazza's "The Man" cover right now... but my point had little to do with the story and more to do with the picture. As you may or may not know I'm into photography... my comment was about the picture and the players, not a statement on the article.
