Mets on SI cover

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  1. JoeJet

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    Think before you post. The article is being written in 2007, not 1997.
     
  2. vinsjets

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    that seems to make the most sense if thats the case. I haven't gotten my issue yet so we'll see.
     
  3. GreenMachine

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    You said
    "Controlled by a white GM and white manager. Always been that way with the Yankees."

    So have the Mets...:up:

    BTW in 1997 the Mets had a white GM and a white manager......
     
  4. FrankTheTank

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    The point is NOW we have a black manager and a latino GM. That is the main reason SI gave the Mets the cover. Why do you have such a problem with this?
     
  5. GreenMachine

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    I do not. I just think many other clubs are just as diversified.
     
  6. davecrazy

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    Uhm, there are only 5 minority managers and two minority GM's.

    I think the Mets are the only team that has both, so actually no...no other club in baseball is just as diversified. In fact, most are lily white.

    Edit: My bad, the Chicago White Sox have minorities in the GM and Coaches position. A African-American GM and a Latino coach.

    Here's a study the University of Central Flordia does every year on race and MLB in terms of ownership, players, and management. The numbers are for the 2006 season.

    http://www.bus.ucf.edu/sport/public/downloads/2006_RGRC_MLB.pdf

    more:

     
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  7. GreenMachine

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    OK, so most clubs feature all white players...got it...


    BTW, I remember just a couple of years ago people bitching about Willie and Omar....Just sayin'.
     
  8. devilonthetownhallroof

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    So you can say the Mets management is the most diverse, but other than those two guys, they really aren't any more diverse than anyone else.
     
  9. GreenMachine

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    That is my point, devil...thanks....


    As a matter of fact, can anyone name a predominately white team?:eek:hmy:
     
  10. davecrazy

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    You can say that the White Sox and Mets are the most diverse teams, while the Rangers, Cubs, Marlins, and Nationals are somewhat diverse and the rest of the the teams in MLB are not diverse at all when it comes to managers and GM's.

    As far as players on a team by team basis its hard to find concrete numbers..I suspect in part due to the fluctuations of rosters through the season.

    But if we examine the MLB averages:
    59.5% white,
    8.4% African-American
    29.4% Latino
    2.4% Asian

    we can go through each roster and see if a particular team is more or less diverse then an "average" MLB team.

    Right now the Mets have:
    8 White players -- 32%
    1 African-American -- 4%
    16 Latios -- 64%

    Far different then the 59.5% white/29.4% latin league average.

    Edit: I need to see if the UCF numbers are based on 40 man or active roster....if the're 40 man, the comparing the active roster isint really fair.
     
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  11. GreenMachine

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    Yankees have 12 white guys, 1 Japanese guy, 1 Taiwanese, 3 mixed race, and 8 Latinos...


    pretty diverse....
     
  12. FrankTheTank

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    How this has become an argument is completely beyond me, when you get upset over something like this it just makes you look envious.
     
  13. FrankTheTank

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    Also, after reading the article, the story is about how he created the Mets, not about the Mets being more diverse than other Major League teams. It's about his philosiphy and the story of him turning the Mets back into contenders.
     
  14. GreenMachine

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    How is it envy?

    And please, Yankee fans...do not post the 26-2 thing.....


    I just think many other teams are just as diverse...
     
  15. FrankTheTank

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    Listen, when you come into a thread about a team getting the cover of an SI issue, and then try and discount them like they dont deserve it and whine that other teams are just as diverse, it seems like its envy. Maybe not, maybe i'm wrong, I just dont see the need to make a huge deal over it when the article wasnt even about the Mets being hailed as "the most diverse".
     
  16. davecrazy

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    diverse as compared to what?

    in terms of players the league is 60% white, so every single team is "diverse" if you quantify diversity as "having a non-white player on the 25/40 man roster".

    in terms of GM/managers, there are only 5 teams that can make any claims of diversity. And only the White Sox and Mets have a manager/GM combo that is non-white.

    no other teams are 'just as diverse' as any other when looking at GM/manager.
     
  17. devilonthetownhallroof

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    That actually makes the Mets LESS diverse than the league average. They have a higher percentage of one race (Latino) than the average majority race (white). It may be a different proportion of each race, but by definition, they are less diverse.
     
  18. davecrazy

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    That's because the Latin players are more docile and easier to control.

    -- Gary Sheffield
     
  19. Pride

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    Anyone think the cover just looks bad. the players arent symmetric. Endy isnt in the middle and randolph should be parallel to endy. it just looks like they took the picture at an incline
     
  20. FrankTheTank

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    Not to mention El Duque looks mentally challenged.
     

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