Yankees @ White Sox June 4-7

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Maybe they can make a push too and if they had been to 12 straight postseasons I'd have a little more confidence they'd make a run. I don't know if we'll mak a run but it's too early to give up.
     
  2. ShadeTree#55

    ShadeTree#55 Active Member

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    Was the push including last night, or does it start today?

    Or is big Rog gonna save you?
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Big Rog is going to help us get there, it's hard to rely on Desalvo and Clippard but once Roger gets here we have 4 pretty reliable pitchers which will help alot.
     
  4. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    DeSalvo is a train wreck, but what's your issue with Clippard? He hasn't pitched poorly.
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He hasn't and Desalvo has pitched well at times for us but it's too early to have real confidence in him. He ,might ptich well the rest of the season and beyond but as of now I think that's alot to ask. Tonight is a big game and relying on an unproven rookie is not the best way to win those types of games.
     
  6. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Ahh, gotcha.

    I have a lot more confidence in him than you do. Actually, I think I have a lot more confidence in him than most people do. Between his composure so far, and that sick breaking stuff he throws, I believe he's a keeper for a long time.

    I've always said that I would rather have a guy who threw nasty off speed stuff, than a guy who throws 95 all the time.
     
  7. ShadeTree#55

    ShadeTree#55 Active Member

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    The last 5 years the AL wild card has won at least 95 games. The Yanks would have to go 71-36 to reach that plateau. .663 Baseball up from your current .436 pace.

    Just want to bring some perspective.
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I heard all that 2 years ago and the AL east 2nd place team got the WC. We were 28-28 at this time 2 years ago 6 games behind the WC leader.
     
  9. ShadeTree#55

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    You were 28-27 in 2005 after 55 games. Only 5 out of the divison. Why were you think Wild Card in 2005?
     
  10. AlioTheFool

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    Yeah, we're still in it, but if we lose too many more games like last night, we may as well pack it in. We have to win series against the potential wild card teams, and we have to pull off sweeps against the also-rans. If not, this race is done.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I looked on this date in 2005 and we were 28-28 on this date so we must have lost that night to fall 6 back. We actually fell to 28-30 and 8 games back of the WC a few nights later.
     
  12. ShadeTree#55

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    If you were 5 games out of 1st after the same amount of games 55, what does the WC have to do with anything?

    You were looking WC with the division that close?

    Now you're 7 back for the WC and 12.5 in the Division.

    The 2005 comparison makes no sense.
     
  13. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    Um, that never happened. Mientkiewicz hit .306 in 2001, then .300 in 2003. Other than that he's hit .229, .261, .238, .240, .283, and is at .226 this year. Add that he's not a power hitter, and that's awful. He can NOT hit.
     
  14. AlioTheFool

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    Hmm, you're right. Interesting. I swear I had that information previously. Ah well, so I'm wrong again.

    I didn't say he was a power hitter. A guy at the bottom of the lineup doesn't need to be. He could have hit .270-.280 in the Yankees lineup. If you add in his glove, he's worth it to me. (And FAR better than Phelps.)

    But like I said, if I can get Teixeira cheaply enough, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
     
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    Moose is gutless.:mad:
     
  16. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    To be fair, he was flirting with .400 for a few months back in 2001, I believe. That's probably where Alio got it from.
     
  17. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    He was batting .403 as of May 22, 2001. He then went on a major skid and saw his average fall to .309 on June 13. It rose back up and I suppose he was in the mix for the batting crown for at least one more month.
    He sucked in September.
     
  18. AlioTheFool

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    Hey, my knowledge was partially right, but overall wrong. No biggie, I accepted being shown wrong. Doesn't change the fact that I'd still much prefer having Dougie as our first baseman over Josh Phelps.
     
  19. MSUJet85

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    Sure he has a glove but I don't buy the bat, he sucked for the Mets and he is batting below .230 for you guys, to me that sucks
     
  20. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    I can't really decide who I prefer. Phelps can't field and is a solid hitter. Mientkiewicz is a bad hitter, but an amazing fielder. If Phelps were a great hitter, it would be a no brainer, but since he isn't, we have this crappy twosome.
     

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