Vick up to his neck in it

Yeah its a stretch, but I'm just using the extreme as an example to prove my point. And drinking is another way to blow off steam. Driving while impaired is also way worse than dog fighting so you are really just helping prove my point. And you're probably right about having a longer suspension, which is total bullshit. So its not really about the dogs, but about Mike Vick, and his biggest offense is tarnishing the league's "image".

 

Of course it's about tarnishing the leagues image, where do you think the money comes from? People who spend millions advertising boner medicine and beer don't want creeps representing them. That's a given but on the flip side Vick is getting millions for not only not tarnishing that image but enhancing it and everyone with any amount of brains knows the deal. You can't blame the league that Vick is a low life and that tarnishes the leagues image.

 

First of all, there is a difference between ignorance and intelligence and I said ignorance. Second, in case you missed it, I have and dog that I love and treat as part of my family. Third...you just put forth eating dogs in china as a bad or abusive thing...what is the difference between a chinaman eating a dog and a good ol boy eating an alligator? Well, for one, alligators are protected species, so the chinaman is the one in the right. But unless you are a vegetarian, you have no right whatsoever to look down on someone for the type of meat they choose to eat. Hypocrite. Save the poor defenseless cows...don't eat steak!

Oh, that's right, its part of the natural order. Duh! You're just another bleeding heart dog-lover whose emotions are blinding your ability to reason things out. That's all right, I love dogs too and was even a vegetarian for 7 years, but you gotta look at things on the grand scale or you're missing most of the picture.

 

There is a difference between where you are on the food chain and a human with free will torturing animals for sport.

 

Endangering the lives of innocent people is what is worse. And I'd rather die by bullet than knife...its quicker.

I've seen sport fights on tv and I agree that its brutal, and I've seen (and broken up) enough dog fights in which my 10 year old male has been involved to know what's up. And anyone who thinks its even worth mentioning in the same breath as domestic violence, child abuse, and driving around in a 4000 pound hammer while wasted is just plain dumb! They're animals, its nature, stop projecting.

 

yeah dude look i agree with u for the most part, i think some of the laws and punishments are crazy. i dont know the exact names but there was this case where a guy kidnapped and molested a lil girl, got caught locked up and was out after 3 years. he then went after the same girl, but this time the father of the girl caught him and ran him over with his car TWICE. now that dad got put in the slammer for 18 years. i think that's crazy and the dad should've been given a medal. but laws are laws and dog fighting is illegal. if vick gets convicted of dog fighting the league has every right to suspend him for it.

 

That's not the point...I was responding to gus' wish that I be reincarnated into chairman mao's next lunch buffet. It seems that he thinks the animals people that look different from him eat are somehow less morally fit for consumption than the one he chooses to consume.

 

I was referring to dog fights for sport in contrast to my dog just going at it with any other male with balls. And maybe you don't get out much because I've had a dog for 10 years, and he chooses to get into fights every time he sees another viable male. And it's my ass that jumps in and breaks it up because I don't like to see anything or any one get hurt. It is wrong, but once again you fail to see the big picture. Dog fighting is being given more precedence than the activities which I previously mentioned and that is the real tragedy. The media should spend more time telling people how bad drinking and driving is and less time on animals. That's why I keep bringing up other crimes. There is a scale otherwise every offense would carry the same sentence. And what really pisses me off is that people will spend more time and energy talking about some bullshit dog fights than on the things in our society that deserve the most immediate attention. And my point is proven in that any of the crimes I have previously mentioned carry a much worse sentence in a court of law than dog fighting. You still really don't get it...thank goodness our lawmakers do.

 

Oh yeah, like my reincarnated pitbull ass has any chance against mike vick's reincarnated pitbull self...he'd probably kill me instantly, and then I wouldn't feel a thing.

As for your question...I'll spell it out. You apparently think it is more OK for you to eat the animals that you are used to eating, but the animals a guy from half way around the world chooses to eat are somehow less worthy. That's just cultural racism.

 

yeah all in all i would say we all agree that dog fighting is wrong, and breeding animals for the purpose of fighting is wrong, we just tend to disagree on what the punishment for this crime should be.

 

The reason this is a big story is unlike the other crimes you are talking about this is not all that usual as a story but apparently is much more common than reported. By the way when ever you hear these nice stories about dogs that attack children or a person minding their own business, I just wonder if these are dogs that have been trained to fight by abusive SOB's and that's why they go off on people sometimes?

 

as for the eating meat thing and reincarnation i think those are personal beliefs and as such should be kept to yourself. if u choose to not eat meat fine but dont push that on people who do choose to eat meat. and the people in china eating dog are probably doing so as an alternative to starving to death. i think i would do the same thing if push came to shove. but IMO the people over in china would rather have a t bone from a cow anyday over dog. if that makes me "culturally racist" then so be it.