yea no way anyone throws a 1st rder in the mix for him. maybe a 2nd cuz hes 1st rd talent. but I assume his academic issues will raise a flag with many. expecting someone who couldnt read books to continue to go to school for free as opposed to reading day and night playbooks and film study. could you count on him to do it? then again football isnt school, so maybe this kid is just flat out football smart and dedicated to the sport, and nothing else. either way I wouldnt spend a 2nd rder on him. not unless i had a full file on this kids behavior and history and maybe this was just some fluke or first time academic issue.
this kid was known as a leader on and off the field and this came as a big shock to everybody. Paul was not one of those fuckups who always got in trouble, failed classes etc. If he hated school so much he would have just entered the draft but he tried to stay for his 5th year with Georgia, that says alot to me.
you most defenantly need to be smart in the nfl to be on offense or defense to me its not just about reading a player its all about reacting to what you see as well. then you have to remeber a book the size of a phone directory then in the process you have to use your instincts and natural play ability after the play starts.. As for the first round supplemental picks its safe to say no one chooses in the first round then
He is gonna get picked but in the 2nd or 3rd round not 1st even if he does have that talent.Teams are gonna pass over him because of teh new conduct policy, even though he is a good kid who only had trouble in school.
Ist rnd? the jets have done that before rob moore(it ended up being the 4th overall pick) we wanted bret favre and anyone over 12 yrs of age knows how that happened. dont tell me the QB that was selected after Favre
If the FO is willing to gamble a 2nd rounder for Oliver and it pans out, we can conceivably have the best young CB duo (tough to compare to Bailey and Bly) in the league for a couple of years, at least, until they both hit free agency. I think that it may very well be worth the gamble but I don't think that we'll get him even if we offered a 2nd rounder. Some one else in front of us will grab him.
and if it don?t word out, we wasted a pick we despradly need to rebuild our o-line. Dyson is a above avrage CB and we traded up for Revis. why would we gamble on oliver? Does anybody know the phrase "Mangini Guy"?
The fact that he basicaly shut down Calvin Johnson intrigues me i mean Johnson beat everybody he faced except Oliver and yeah we got Revis but how long will we have Dyson.I remember making a mock with us selcting two corners Revis and Eric Wright in the 2nd, everybody asked why we needed 2 corners maybe its not such a bad idea after all. Im still deciding on whether a second is too high for him but really if we zoom to the 08 draft he is in their in the 1st round, some already had him as the best corner in the nation so thats already a guranteed top 15 selection.but definetly if he is there in the third we better pick him.
before we worry about dyson we need to get many other things fixed (O-Line, WR and we?ll have to wait how the front 7 additions from this years offseason work out), and since we?re not throwing out big bugs in FA we need our picks. I really got concerns if he could understand the Playbook if not, he?s a bust, no matter how much physical talent he has. There?s a reason they do the Wonderlic, and there?s a reason mangini is doing his little tests with the prospects. You don?t have to be a ginius to be a great player, but you have to have a certain intelligents. The Game is much more complex at the NFL than on College (that?s why they call it "the next level" and that?s the reason most of the QBs who come out of College are doing nothing but reading Playbooks and watching tape for a hole year before they hit the fielt), it?s much more important to be smart in the NFL than in College. I would give him a shot with a 5th rounder, maybe a 4th rounder. Even a 3rd rounder would imo be too much risk. A 2nd rounder, no way.
The draft is what it has always been.....a GAMBLE. There is no guarantee that a player will play up to the level that he was drafted in. Nor is there a guarantee that a 7th rounder can't have a stronger impact on the team than players picked ahead of him. I think that many teams now will gladly trade a 3rd or 2nd rounde pick to the Saints for Colson. Oliver was and may very well be still graded as a 1st round pick by a lot of the scouting services and front offices. If that is in deed the case, spending a 2nd rounder on him before the 2008 draft allows the Jets to acquire a 1st round talent a year earlier. On that ground alone, the move does make a lot of sense. There's a good reason why top rated CB's get picked early and often during the draft. It's a position that's tougher to fill. Decent RT's and Guards are a lot easier to find than a decent CB. A tandem of decent CB's can buy more time for the front 7 to get to the QB and as it stands now, the 2008 version of the Jets defense with another year under the current regime may well be on its way to being a highly-ranked unit with the additions of Revis, Harris, et al. As for whether or not Oliver is a "Mangini guy" due to the fact that he became academically inelligible, there's a lot reasons why that may have come about and we don't know the whole story about the matter. The few things that we know of however bodes well for him. Such as seeing him return to school for his last year of eligibility eventhough he had a good chance of being drafted in the 1st round. He also opted to return to school to finish his degree. He is also well-thought of and considered a leader by the team's coaching staff and his team-mates. These comments and stories tell me that there may just be more substance to this guy than what the rest of the world sees. As Mangini would probably say.....give him the TRUTH. I sincerely doubt the the Jets would even have a decent shot at Oliver. The likelihood of him being picked before we even get the opportunity to do so is very real and highly probable.
if he is there in the 3rd, I would love to pick this guy up. Being picked in the supplemental draft gives him more time to learn the playbook than if he were to be picked in the actual draft
