Junc. That statement qualifies for most stupid comment ever. "pitched pretty well except for 4 batters" . Have any major league pitcher "take back" four batters that they want to, and they will win 90% of their games.
The guy was pitching on the road against a heated riva in a prime time game he pitched well overall. I'd rather a pitcher give up 4 solo home runs than get battered by giving up hit afer hit and giving up 5-6 runs.
I said ARod wasn't the only failure but he was the only player who didn't contribute at all, eery other player contibuted something while ARod did nothing but hurt us. EVERY Yankee had at least an RBI EXCEPT for Alex. I don't know when you pull the pitcher, I do know if he puled him you and other Torre haters would have screamed "why is he pulling him so quickly". They sent him packing not b/c of the 4 Hs, b/c they needed room to call up another pitcher and he has options. He'll be back up soon if our starters don't get healthy.
I have to side with junc on this one. He had given up I believe one hit prior to the home runs. Obviously, giving up 4 consecutive home runs is never a good thing, but he was hardly terrible that night. Back on topic, how did Hughes look? I saw the box score but not the game. Was he sharp?
No one claimed he pitched poorly. But at the very least, after back-to-back homers, any manager worth his weight in dogshit should send out his pitching coach to talk to the pitcher, no matter what his experience level, but especially a kid in his second start in the most hostile environment imaginable. Hughes pitched well, IMO. He has a nasty fastball, and his other stuff looked pretty good. He seemed to be tiring just a bit when he was pulled, but that's to be expected with the handcuffs he's had up till now. He has talent, no question. The only real question is will the Yankees ruin him before he gets the chance to be great.
Don't get me wrong, Guidry should have been out there, no question. Did you hear the ESPN idiots after the inning? "This is why Joe Torre is a great manager. The kid gives up 4 consecutive home runs, he knows to pull him." It blew my mind.
Exactly. That's my problem with Joe. He allows guys to sink themselves, and then he kills the guys who come through a few times. He's a terrible manager, and nothing that junc argues to the contrary will change my mind.
Wow, Kim Jones just reported that Cashman stated Hughes is NOT here on a start-by-start basis, he's here, and probably for a very long time. Nice. That's got to be good for his confidence.
How does a "terrible Manager" win WS, 6 AL pennants and 10 div titles in 11 years? I am assuming you think Joe is responsible for Hughes' injury?
Who is getting dropped from the 40 man roster for DeSalvo? Here is the 40 man 40-Man Roster Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB * 38 T.J. Beam R/R 6-7 215 08/28/80 47 Colter Bean R/R 6-6 255 01/16/77 * 39 Chris Britton R/R 6-3 280 12/16/82 33 Brian Bruney R/R 6-3 245 02/17/82 48 Kyle Farnsworth R/R 6-4 235 04/14/76 34 Sean Henn R/L 6-4 225 04/23/81 65 Phil Hughes R/R 6-5 220 06/24/86 29 Kei Igawa L/L 6-1 210 07/13/79 * 58 Jeff Karstens R/R 6-3 185 09/24/82 15-day Disabled List * 79 Jeff Kennard R/R 6-2 220 06/26/81 * 35 Mike Mussina L/R 6-2 190 12/08/68 15-day Disabled List 36 Mike Myers L/L 6-3 225 06/26/69 * 45 Carl Pavano R/R 6-5 240 01/08/76 15-day Disabled List 46 Andy Pettitte L/L 6-5 225 06/15/72 43 Scott Proctor R/R 6-1 195 01/02/77 * 27 Darrell Rasner R/R 6-3 210 01/13/81 42 Mariano Rivera R/R 6-2 185 11/29/69 * 77 Humberto Sanchez R/R 6-6 230 05/28/83 15-day Disabled List * 60 Jose Veras R/R 6-5 235 10/20/80 15-day Disabled List 52 Luis Vizcaino R/R 5-11 210 08/06/74 40 Chien-Ming Wang R/R 6-3 225 03/31/80 * 38 Chase Wright L/L 6-2 205 02/08/83 Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB 26 Wil Nieves R/R 5-11 190 09/25/77 20 Jorge Posada S/R 6-2 205 08/17/71 Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB 41 Miguel Cairo R/R 6-1 210 05/04/74 24 Robinson Cano L/R 6-0 205 10/22/82 * -- Alberto Gonzalez R/R 5-11 165 04/18/83 2 Derek Jeter R/R 6-3 195 06/26/74 11 Doug Mientkiewicz L/R 6-2 205 06/19/74 * 72 Juan Miranda L/L 6-0 220 04/25/83 31 Josh Phelps R/R 6-3 225 05/12/78 13 Alex Rodriguez R/R 6-3 225 07/27/75 Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB 53 Bobby Abreu L/R 6-0 210 03/11/74 28 Melky Cabrera S/L 5-11 200 08/11/84 18 Johnny Damon L/L 6-2 205 11/05/73 55 Hideki Matsui L/R 6-2 210 06/12/74 * 64 Kevin Reese L/L 5-11 195 03/11/78 * 75 Bronson Sardinha L/R 6-1 220 04/06/83 * 19 Kevin Thompson R/R 5-10 190 09/18/79 Designated Hitters B/T Ht Wt DOB 25 Jason Giambi L/R 6-3 235 01/08/71 I see it coming down to Reese, Thompson or Colter Bean unless they want to get rid of Veras who is on the DL. A big part of me wishes it will be Cairo.
That's not how options work. It's not that they have say, 6 times they can be called up and sent down. They have 3 years during which they can be called up and sent down an unlimited number of times without passing through waivers. Once a player has 3 years in the minors, he must be added to the 40 man roster to avoid the Rule 5 Draft. Once that happens, the option years start.
Definitely won't be Cairo. He's the only extra infielder we have. (At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was Phelps. We don't need 3 first basemen, plus Cairo, who can play first, if necessary.)
DL trips dont effect the 40 man roster. To add someone you must release someone and its a full release. The only way a player can be sent to the minors is if no other team signs him.
