i'm not too high on taking Olsen, but I trust Mangini and Mr. T. it seems a lot of people here think in selecting Olsen (or any other position) we'll thereby neglect a glaring need such as OL; such thought process seemingly happens every year. but what if this scenario occurs: R1, Olsen. R2, Ramirez or Beekman. then we'll have a TE who's a receiving threat as well as an improved OL at G. and then with the other R2 pick and R3 pick, we go Defense. like i said, I'm not really in favor of drafting Olsen, but it's not impossible to get the best of both worlds if they do in fact select him at #25. (another scenario would be Blalock first and then another TE such as Miller - if he drops - in R2. still, i don't think TE is that crucial right now, but I'm trying to cover various scenarios). cheers
I would like Blalock and Ben Patrick whos a better blocker. Thing is we havn't had a genuine threat at TE for some time. (Don't jump on me about Baker). If Olsen can open the field up like all the experts are saying then that will make our O lines job that bit easier. TJ is also meant to be another good blocker.
oh brother. Have you seen either one of them play?!?! Seriously, the hatred for Shockey is ridiculous
That would be true if Olsen was being considered as only a TE. A lot of people, it seems, are also looking at him as an H-back and in that capacity he could be awesome. Good hands, fast and can make a safety leary of trying to put a big hit on him.
yea, it'd be nice to add a threat. the point is, by taking Olsen AND a starting OL (at G or RT), the TE doesn't need to be a good blocker because the line will improve. it's okay to knock Olsen for his blocking deficiencies, but with an improved OL, it won't really matter. so why not just draft both? factor in Baker who's a solid blocker with good hands and the Offense will be dangerous; especially with a creative Coordinator like Schotty. cheers
I don't think this would be a good choice. We don't need a TE, at least in my opinion. I've said it a thousand times this off-season, Chris Baker is just fine.
Everyone says that the Jets are trying to run themselves like the Pats, who have drafted two first round TEs since 2002 (Daniel Graham and Ben Watson). Olsen would not be a bad pick, and would add a player that can play TE, WR, or out of the backfield. That said, would I rather have Houston, Jarrett, or Meachem? Absolutely. But if it comes down to Olsen or Blalock, I'd rather have Olsen.
just a little note here..... when i mention HB in the same sentence as a pass catching TE, i am not referring to a running back or tailback. it means "H-back" which several offensive schemes employ to function as a hybrid fullback and tight end. jil
The more I think about it the more like Olsen. Then take Wright and Beekman in the 2nd rd and Robison in the 3rd. Plus do not forget Schotty loves to use the TEs.
I understand I'm not really strengthening my case here, but I do in fact know that Olsen is not one of the players the Jets are targeting.
I hate it when people here assume that we don't want Olsen (some of us) because of Becht/Mitchell/Brady. While that plays a small part of it, the main reason is that WE HAVE A GOOD TIGHT END ALREADY. We can't go TE ahead OL, CB or OLB... Plus I don't even like Olsen a lot anyway. I would not put too much stock into this article anyway. Of course if he's there we MIGHT take him at #25... No shit. I could have told you that. The title of this thread is misleading. How about this scenario: - Greg Olsen falls to #25. The Saints own three 4th round picks within 6 of each other. The Saints signed Eric Johnson, but this would be a big upgrade for them as this could be a good value and they need a recieving threat badly. So we send #25 to the Saints for the #27 and their pick in the 4th round which is in the low 120s... Thoughts?
You can't just say that..... What makes you sure? Is it because the Jets interviewed him and brought him in for a visit?
I would not say that if I didn't have what I believe to be solid proof. That said, I'm not interested in either defending myself nor letting the world know what the Jets plans are, but suffice it to say, Olsen is not in them.
Not to sound rude, but if you do have that inside knowledge will you PLEASE list the 18-20 people at #25 that Tannenbaum says they ARE interested in? That very statement by him I find ridiculous so I would just love to see his "list".
bottom line here...... jets DO need a TE/WR/HB who can stretch the seams especially against the cover 2 and cover 3 schemes that are still popular. i think olsen can be that guy...i have seen some video on him courtesy of a film dude i know down in florida who has a stash of college tape that would put the NFL scouts to shame. regardless if the jets bite or not, they HAVE TO SHOW INTEREST IN HIM because there are other teams picking after the jets that genuinely need a TE. i can see both sides of the olsen argument but no one can deny that our passing game is in need of a vertical threat down the middle of the field. that threat can come from a TE, slot receiver, or H-back jil
If I remember correctly, you are a bit of an insider yourself, aren't you? There, that should deflect some attention... look at the shiny object, look at the shiny object.