I look at the top 30 or so draft board, and this is a pretty poor class at the top. There aren't alot of impact skill players who will change the fortunes of a struggling franchise. W/ that said, w/ our team needs and draft spot, I'm really confident and excited that we are gonna get a great player, who will not only make an impact from day 1, but will be a core player for alot of years. Part of that is b/c the value at our given spots, plays perfectly into the positions we need help at. Interior OL, CB, possibly WR and OLB. Alot of these players also fit the bill of top character and intangibles that our FO is looking for. Interior OL: Blalock, Grubbs OLB: Moss, Timmons, Spencer CB: Revis, Houston, Ross WR: Bowe, Meachem, Ginn It's too tough to predict who we're actually gonna select, but anybody else have a great feeling leading up to next Saturday?
I agree Kurt. The draft class is more bottom heavy in the first, with everyone ranging from about the 15th prospect to about the 30th prospect being on a very similar level. This benefits us because being in the lower range of those picks, we're getting about the same type of talent that teams like Pittsburgh will be getting, and they're 10 spots ahead of us. On top of that, the majority of the valuable players at our pick will be positions where we could use a player, like G, CB, pass rushing OLB, and WR (WR can be argued but IMO Coles is gonna drop off majorly in a few years and with McCairens gone we need a solid #3). In fact, there's prospects of value at each of these positions, as I have in the mock in my sig. If we end up covering all of these bases, I'll be very happy.
My enthusiasm for the draft is muted a bit by the real prospect that we could wind up taking somebody like Houston at 25 while the Pats get Posluzny or Spencer at 24 and Justin Harrell at 28. Now that would be a disaster in terms of how the two teams matchup for the next few seasons.
I wouldn't be too worried about that. Rumor is, alot of teams like Posluszny between 10-20 and w/ the huge contract the Pats just gave Thomas/ the one Colvin already has, i doubt theyd take another OLB w/ their 1st pick. In fact, unless they target a CB..I'll go on record stating that the current value board favors our needs alot better than it does the Pats.
I think the direction outlined in MobiusOne28's signature (OG Blalock, CBs Wright/Wilson, DE/OLBs Alama-Francis and Robison) is a likely day one stockpile, though I think Wright will scare off the Jets unless he's a changed man now and Steve Yarnell buys off. Sounds like Wilson is a character guy with speed who could really fit into their '07 plans. While the players chosen is somewhat of a crapshoot, I would put the chances a 99% that the Jets will trade down at some point Saturday to recoup the #4 they lost for Barlow. I don't have a trade value chart handy, but moving from 25 down to 32 for the Raider's first pick of the 4th round wouldn't surprise me (if the chart agrees).
I'm kind of getting the vibe that we are Targetting Blalock, if that is the case, I think(and hope) we will trade down 3-4 spots, recouping at least a 4th rounder and maybe a 7th rounder. Blalock is great value for us, in terms of what he'd bring to this team, but on the big board his value is somewhere between 30-40.
I'll be the first to tell you I haven't studied Blalock game to game, so my opinion isn't as informed as yours or others' may be. That said, his highlights show he is the type of big, physical beast we need. And I think he fits all the leadership, character parameters that we are seeking. I'd love to draft him a couple spots lower and recoup a pick in the meantime. Saturday can't get here soon enough for me!
what i dont get is how the draft class isnt good, and doesnt have many impact players, yet you think at 25 we will get one....interesting...
but i do think we will get someone solid at 25 too....just kinda pointing out that your post contradicts itself...
If guys like Revis or Olsen or somone else is falling to 25 and we want Blalock, we should be able to find somone, who?s willing to trade up a few spots especially to get olsen. But if all the higher ranked players are gone, it?ll be hard to find someone for a trade, cuz it seems like there are about 10-15 players who got good value in the late 1st, early 2nd round.
No, he's right. Last year's Draft was heavy loaded at the top of the Draft with Leinart Cutler, Bush, Young, Williams. The Top 12-13 last year was really good, but then the Talent dropped significantly. And the talent of the bottom of the first round was the same with the talent of the late second round. This year's Draft has 5-6 Top prospect. The talent from the middle of the first is pretty much equal with the talent of the end of the second round. So the Draft hasn't many top prospects, but it is deeper. Therefore the Jets will get an impact player in the first and late second round, because there is not a clear talent drop off. I hope this makes sense.:grin:
You couldn't have explained it any better. Except I'd add that in terms of true impact positions at the top I.E. RB, QB,LT Mlb, etc..the draft is very poor at the top. But if you are sitting at a spot in the late 1st w/ a need on the interior OL, Safety, CB or OLB..you are in great position.
You basically listed all the guys I'd like the Jets to take. I'm a little wary of Ginn but you can't argue with taking a guy that fast. And, thankfully, no Greg Olsen. Right now, my favorites are Blalock and Spencer.
Good thread and discussion. I have read alot of draft books in the last two weeks and they agree with you. Our true positions of need seem to match this draft well. The only point that I will add is from what i read on Houston (whom most Mocks have us taking) he seems to be more of a cover 2 corner and not a man on man guy. So I hope either one of the other two corners drop to us or one of the first teams in the second round want to drop down a few spots and we are able to take one of the OG early in the second.
I think you guys are right about the talent curve not dropping off sharply. This has also probably not gone unnoticed by many of the early pickers, so we can expect some teams ahead of us to be looking to trade down. I don't think we should succumb to this temptation, unless something really irrestible comes along and the trade up isn't costly. Other than that, I have no problem staying where we are and selecting Blalock, whether or not we're able to recoup some small pittance for a few moves downward. The addition of Blalock would take everyone to a higher level, IMO. I can't wait for Saturday!
NOTHING can be forecasted as a "DISASTER" in this draft or any other draft before it even happens. Even if the draft plays out as you state, you have NO IDEA if it will be good or bad as far as the Jets are concerned. I frankly do not care who the Patriots draft.
I think our draftees are going to be nothing short of workmanlike. Which is just as well because this draft class to me is very uninspiring.
You really don't think we need a good Nose Tackle? The positions you name are certainly viable, but what about NT?
Kurt, I would extend your arguemnt - particular for CBs - to say that there is good value on them all the way into the third round. And frankly, I think the second or third is the perfect place to take a CB because we've got Justin Miller, who has all the talent of any first round CB so I think they'd probably like to take someone they can mold while giving Miller the chance to fulfill his promise. If they took a CB in the first round AND Miller lived up to his talent, they would essentially have wasted a pick. If they take one to develop, then that player can either replace Miller if he's a bust or replace Dyson as Dyson's contract ends. But either way, I am very pleased with the options I expect will be available to us. Lastly, re: trading down - remember what happened when we supposedly tried to trade down and still get Chris Gocong. And, in addition, it also requries finding a team that desperately wnts to move up to 25, which may be the hardest part of all.
