Thats what happens when you pick an unathletic slow player 3 rounds before he should of been drafted. The 1st time I saw Schlegel in the preseason I could see he was to slow and did not have the agility to play at a high level. How did the coaching staff not see this? http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/117704320064950.xml&coll=1
We drafted Victor Hobson in the 2nd round with many of the same flaws on display. Speed and/or quickness are necessary elements in a reactive defense like a 3-4.
Victor Hobson was slow and unatheltic for the Cover 2 defense we were playing at the time. Victor Hobson is a very good fit for the 3-4 we are playing now, this was exhibited last year by his play. Shlegal will likely never be an every down linebacker, but he might be able to thrive in goal line and short yardage play. However, I doubt that in the future this will be enough to keep him on the team.
I cannot agree. I think Hobson is a very good linebacker. He might be a little stiff but he is much more gifted athletically than schelel. Hobson was a slight reach but there was talk about Schlegel going undrafted.
Not a shock to anyone who has any familiarity with the Jets. I wonder who the leak was, as Mr. T (cool name for a GM) and Mangenious will not be happy.
You don't hit a homerun with every draft pick. That being said, always going for the safe choice won't lead you to greatness. If Schelgel being a bust is the worst thing you can say about last year's draft, then I think we will be okay.
20/20 hindsight. At the time they drafted Schegel, he was the "leader" of the best Linebacking corp in the college ranks. He was a stout MLB with good character and leadership traits. At that time, the pick was indicative of the emphasis placed by the new Jets' FO on character, intelligence, versatility and love-for-the-game. To me the parameters used by the Jets' FO to pick a player is extremely sound now as it was then. But nothing is life is foolproof. To me personally, the jury is still out on Schlegel but I have already accepted the fact that there will always be failures that will rise even from the soundest of all methods.
I agree on that, but at the time the valuation of Schlegel was so far off it was almost a Bryan Thomas moment. I was willing to go along with the pick because the new regime always gets some slack as they try to put things together, however that kind of pick needs to show some results or people start wondering. I still like the Jets draft last year. They got 5 or 6 decent to excellent players out of it and you can't ask for more than that even with 10 picks.
He was a big reach. All we keep hearing about was his boar hunting and how he made the plays and AJ Hawk got the credit. He's a career backup and will be lucky to start on Special Teams.
He was certainly a reach, but you can't expect the FO to hit a homer with every pick they land. Schlegel had some great traits which interested our coaches, unfortunately speed wasn't one of them. That being said, it's a new season, and with Barton on the block you've got to think that Schlegel might see some meaningful playing time this year. I'm willing to give the guy a pass for last season- Freshman problems etc. This year, it's time for him to step up and show us what a 3rd round reach can really do.
Hogwash!!!! How anyone can make such an assesment is beyond belief. How many years has he played in the league?What have we seen of him? Look at Bryan Thomas and how many years it took him.Same can be said of any rookie coming into the NFL , there are and will be growing pains.A mistake after how many appearances? Like Herm once said "If you write it, be man enough to put your name on it" Mr Privately indeed.
The average NFL career is just a shade over 3 years. The clock is ticking from the day you are drafted and if you don't show much it speeds up. Well, Herm needed names for his "under the bus" list. It's hard to find scapegoats every year. Having them sign nasty comments would have really helped in figuring out who to put there.
If there's anything we've learned about how Tangini run the Jets ship, it's that you can bet they've analyzed the Schelgal pick 100 different ways and have identified a clear list of "what we've learned" items. I wouldn't be surprised if the way they value a player in pre-draft analysis was shifted or alterned a bit based upon the Schlegal learnings. If this is the worst mistake Tangini has made thus far (you could argue Barlow was just as bad, but at least he scored 6 touchdowns and helped us beat the Pats in New England), I think we should all be estatic...
In all fairness to Schlegel, yeah, he played in 4 games, but for how much time? Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, but it does look like the Jets are bailing on him. I'm still okay with last year's overall draft as we hit home runs in the 4th round and our 1st Rounders are solid.
I think with this guy it was a case of falling in love with the player's personality/intangibles and not looking hard enough at the tangibles. I would say attitude > ability, but you have to have at least some to make it at this level (he says as an overweight 30 something unable to run more than 50 yds without oxygen )
Hey, give the guy another year or two at least. This could just be anohter Tangini smokescreen...With a potential trade of Barton, this guy could be looking at more playing time.
Tangini did a great job with their first draft last year but Schlegel is a classic example of the coach reaching for a Mangini type of guy. Going forward I would hope that they will find this guy via free agency or the later rounds of the draft. This guy is not good at all. To slow to play in any defense in the Nfl.
I have never seen so much tearing of hair and rending of clothes over the rookie season of a 3rd round pick in my life.
