A-Rod Watch 2007

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    But the series that won them the pennant he batted .333. Against Boston.
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He played well that series, at least offensively(I was away at the time so I didn't get to see every one of thsoe games) but that was in late August- what about the first 3 weeks of the month when the race was very tight?
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    We don't agree on much but here is something we probably can agree on. Arod will have a monster year this year and probably in the playoofs too, if the Yankees even make it that far. The reason is he has no pressure on him at all. If the fans still hate him he will walk. There will be a line around the block waiting to sign him to a 6 year 150 million dollar contract. Without trying to prove himself he will do better, as he already is and he has stopped listening to the moron hitting coaches that tell every Yankee player to try and get a walk.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I said long before ST I thought ARod would break out this year(I think Manning finally getting it done in January made me think that). He looks like the guy we thought we were getting but even if he hits 70 HRs and bats .380 if he struggles in october again it's all meaningless. This weekend is a big step, he's facing 3 tough pitchers against our biggest rival and if he struggles this weekend unfortunately we will see more ARod bashing but if he keeps up his hot streak I think it's smooth sailing at least until October.
     
  5. Don

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    We are facing 3 great pitchers. One we have never seen. If he continues at the same pace this weekend he will end up with 150 HRs and 400 RBIs. I'm not expecting that.
     
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    You are not a baseball fan. There's nothing more that can be said.
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    So y willbe ok if he hits .370, 58 HRs and drives in 140 then we loe int he ALDS while he hits .100 w/ 1 RBI? If that's ok and that's your definition of a fan then I guess I am not b/c I would be upset if he choked in october again and no matter what he does in the reg season it won't mater if he chokes again.

    I don't expect the same pace but he will need to produce or the fans and media will be right back on him unfortunately.
     
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    I'd be disappointed that he went cold in the post-season, yes. However, if he creates SEVENTY souveniers, and hits THIRTY-EIGHT PERCENT of the time this year, then yeah, I'm not even considering complaining.

    I'd even be happy with the adjusted numbers you posted. 58 HR, .370 AVG, and 140 RBI? That's HoF votes right there. If he went 0-40 in October I'd STILL be in his corner.
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I guess you don't want to see the Yankees win then, I do and if he struggles again in october that lessens our chances to advance. Reg season #s are nice but he wil be judged on what he does in October.
     
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    junc now really and truly hearts Arod.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I have always rooted for ARod to do well, it has been 3 frustrating years watching him play but right now I am enjoying it as this is the guy we thought we were getting 3 years ago.
     
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    we are finally gettin gto see what he is capable of doing and NO PITCHER is safe.
     
  13. Don

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    That might be ok if you were just as willing to judge the other 8 people in the lineup the same way but you don't even mention them. Sure Jeter has had great playoffs from time to time. How many WSs has that won us in the last 6 years? Last I looked it's still a team sport. If any team can't have 1 person go cold and still win then there is something wrong. Especially this team where every batter from 1 to 9 could bat in any other position. Arod does his part every year to get us there. zif he goes cold why can't the rest of the team pick him up? That's the real story of why the Yankees haven't done crap since 2000.
     
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    EVERY other player on the Yankees has ad good moments in postseason in the alst couple of years EXCEPT ARod. ARod has supposedly been our best playe and he has zero RBI in 12 straight potseason games. jete has enough credibility built up but if he went 12 straight pstseason games batting .097 w/ZERO RBI I'd be upset w/ him too but he hit .500 last postseason. I know iti's not all ARod' fault but he shares most of the blame as he hs not cotributed at all the last 2 postseasons.

    We had a ton of injuries last year, we needed ARod to step up and he was awful. So now guys like Jeter, damon and Posada not only had to pick up the slack for Sheff and matsui but had to for a healthy ARod as well. he didn't do his part to get us there and getting there isn't the issue, we have gotten here ever year since 1995 and mostly w/o Alex, it's what ou do once you are there that matters and he has no goten it done.
     
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    shade why dont you try and smell your own fart.
     
  16. AlioTheFool

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    Show me how Giambi has been better. Sheff too. Cano. And don't leave out ARod's 2004 performance, where he hit .320 with 3 HRs in the post-season. Actually, while you're at it, post EVERY player's stats since the time ARod joined the team. I mean, EVERY other player EXCEPT ARod has had good moments in the postseason, according to you, correct? If that's the case, then I want to see the numbers that prove your claim.

    I'll save you the trouble. You're wrong. Again.
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    Oh, and as for waiting 3 years for him to play like this, what exactly was he doing a couple years ago when throughout half the season, chants of MVP were coming from the stands every time he came to bat. Perhaps you might want to remember some history if you're going to comment on it.
     
  17. ShadeTree#55

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    Rog why don't you smell Arods fingers. They smell like Jeter.
     
  18. Don

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    And good moments did what exactly? Caused us to lose again. Too little to mean a thing. Nobody stepped up too make any difference at all. Of course everybody knows it was the pitching but we won't go down that road again. Of course if you really want to blame someone you can blame the real culprit. Old senile Joe Clueless who insists on using a 4 man rotation in the postseason even when you're down 1-2 in a 5 game series. He guarenteed we would lose last year by starting Wright in game 5. He does the same thing every year. He believes the staff may get tired by game 7 in the WS so he uses 4. Of course we never get to game 7 of the WS because of it.
     
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    why dont you sniff jose reyes underarm.
     
  20. nyjunc

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    2005 & 2006 postseason #s:

    ARod 3-29, .103, 0 HR, 0 RBI

    Giambi 9-27,.333 1 HR, 4 RBI
    Posada 10-27, .370 2 HR, 4 RBI
    Jeter 15-37, .405, 3 HR, 6 RBI
    Sheff 7-33, .212, 3 RBI
    Matsui 8-36, .222, 1 HR, 2 RBI
    Cano 7-34, .206, 5 RBI
    Bernie 4-22, .181, 1 RBI
    Damon 4-17, .235, 1 HR, 3 RBI

    Bubba Crosby 2-8, 1 RBI

    Even Bubba contributed!

    You want to add in '04, ok:

    ARod 19-79, .240, 3 HR, 8 RBI

    Giambi 9-27,.333 1 HR, 4 RBI(DNP 2004)
    Posada 21-72, .292 2 HR, 6 RBI
    Jeter 23-86, .267, 4 HR, 15 RBI
    Sheff 21-81, .259, 2 HR, 10 RBI
    Matsui 20-87, .230, 1 HR, 15 RBI
    Bernie 20-76, .263, 3 HR, 14 RBI



    he was NOT playing like this 2 years ago. he was better and put up good #s but still wsn't clutvh the way he has been so far this year.
     
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