A-Rod Watch 2007

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  1. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    I don't argue that. I'm sure he would hit .300 anywhere, but I think his power numbers would go down due to fewer hittable pitches, and his hit total would go down because he'd get fewer at bats in a bad lineup.
     
  2. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Ground ruled double for arod in the 9th inning down by 4 with Jeter on first. Would've been an RBI if it didnt go over
     
  3. Learn To Swim

    Learn To Swim 2008 Nightowltom "Best Non-Jets Poster" Award Winn

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    A-Rod Booed For Confusing Yankee Fans

    -The Onion
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    and he didn't deserve that MVP and you know it you love ARod b/c he has choked in the clutch and that's why you defend him. The facts are he has had one good postseason series and that was his first series in '04 against Minny. In his last 12 postseason games the man has 4 hits and ZERO RBI. I don't care if he had 3 MVPs his first 3 years here if he doesn't get it done in October it's meaningless.
     
  5. AMJets

    AMJets Well-Known Member

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    junc is back and in mid-season form. Woohoo!!! :breakdance:
     
  6. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I think you're confusing meaningless with extremely disappointing, maybe even frustrating.

    Yes, it matters MORE in the postseason, since that's where the championships are won, but his performance so far this year has shown he can win games in the 162 span, and that's critical for getting to October.

    Yes, he's been a goat in October. But to diminish his performance during the regular season by saying it's meaningless, that's just going too far.
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he's put up good reg season #s but he has too often failed in clutch reg season moments. Sure he has come through now and then but not often enough. he's off to a great start, I thought he'd have a big year this yera and I think he'll have a good october if we get there. I have ben most critical of the guy but I want him to succeed when we need him so I am always rooting for him.
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I hate to be negative as he has started off so well but I have to post facts. Non-yankee fans will never get it as to why we hate ARod(though Shade gets it, he is just trying to rile us up) and we don't HATE him we are fruustarted w/ him when he fails to come through. We all want him to come through and we are all rooting for him. I hope he keeps it up, we need him to play up to his capapbilities to win another Championship.
     
  9. 28rogerblaze51

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    lets just hope this is the year he makes up for his lack of fortitude.

    he should hit atleast 50 homeruns. and have a batting average of .308
     
  10. AMJets

    AMJets Well-Known Member

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    Well said Gary Puppet. :grin:

    Now stop overdosing on stupid pills and dumb capsules. :wink:
     
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  11. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    That's just a crazy statement. You can't have 35+ HRs and 130 RBIs and not be clutch. It's ridiculous. You say he had times when he wasn't. Sure. If he always came through he may have hadd 100 HRs and 300 RBIs. If the other 8 "stars" in that lineup had the same numbers as Arod does every year we wouldn't even be having this discussion as we would have won the past 4 WS.
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    If you have watched him on a daily basis the last 3 years you'd know that it is possible to have very few clutch moments w/ his good fantasy #s. before I watched him every day I was wowed by his #s and thought he was great but #s do lie sometimes. i used to think ARod and Garciaparra were better than Jeter but I have learned that is and was not the case.
     
  13. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I have watched every yankee game I could. Sure he makes me cringe at times but overall he has been great. Just not in the postseason. This whole thing is a product of the media. Nothing else. When he retires with 800 HRs and 2500+ RBIs the NY media will still be saying "but he's not clutch".
     
  14. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    ARod has not been too "clutch" since he's been here, comparing to his regular numbers. If Joe Girardi or someone with bad numbers has done what ARod's done in the clutch, he'd be one of our favorites. We just expect so much from ARod that every at bat is magnified so much.
     
  15. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    it's not a product of the media, I was syaing this long before the media jumped in. Postseason is the biggest factor, if was just good in postseason he wouldn't have these problems but he has also been bad in reg season clutch moments. He does have some clutch moments as every player has but not enough w/ the opportunities presented to him. I want him to come through when we need him most, I am happy for the great start and I hope it continues but we need him in october to win another WS.
     
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    :eek:hmy:

    Did you really just write?

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    Seriously?

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    Junc, you're not just wrong this time, you're crazy to boot. You have a good argument with Nomar, but Jeter is better than ARod? Are you out of your mind?
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Absolutely. Watching ARod for 3 years every day has shown that to me, ARod will put up his #s but alot of them come from meaningless situations. it's like Tom Brady vs. peyton Manning- Brady is by far the much better QB though Peyton took a big step in closing the gap w/ his AFC Title Game performance and winning the SB. Stats aren't everything, watching Jeter his entire career and ARod the last 3 years there is NO DOUBT Jeter is the better player. ARod is w/o a doubt the better fantasy player but as far as the better real player it's Jeter. If I had a choice btw the 2 I wouldn't have to think for a second, I'd take Jeter every time.
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    We will never agree and that's fine. Like I said, when the other 8 people put up the numbers Arod does then we can pick apart his at bats that may not be clutch. Until then I'll spend my time picking apart everybody else's. I'll start with the 20 million dollar Jeter and then move on to the 20 million dollar Giambi.
     
  19. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    There is no such thing as meaningless HRs or RBIs. Unless they come in batting practice. Be serious.
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    When a team is up 8-1 or down 8-1 the #s are meaningless. he gets alot of his #s in blowouts.
     

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