Schedule: UPDATE: Schedule to be released Wednesday at 1 PM

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Where can you possibly find 11 or 12 wins in there?
     
  2. hiker

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    I'm still trying to figure out how I'll tell my future bride that the first night of our honeymoon might be spent at a sports bar :rofl: :eek:hmy: :sad:
     
  3. NDmick

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    I find that romantic
     
  4. hiker

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    Well, if they have a good menu, I could say I'm taking her "someplace special" for a night out :lol:

    I could be like "Oh, look honey, they've got the games on! How about that?!"
     
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    A lot of home games early, lots of road games late. At Tennessee and at New England in late December, that's tough. But I like a Nov 11 bye and the 10 days off after Thanksgiving.
     
  6. Br4d

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    The same place I would have found them in 1998. Some times incremental progress, like the move from 1-15 to 9-7, can suddenly explode when the right combination of factors shows up.

    For the 2007 Jets that combination could come from any number of directions, the primary ones being having a legitimate workhorse tailback for the first time since 2004, having the offensive line make progress again with the starting 5 at this point being the same for the first back to back seasons since 2000-2001, having Coles and Cotchery turn into a duo that's hard for NFL teams to cover effectively, having the defense settle into the 3-4 now that they have had a full season and 2 offseasons of preparing for it, there are a lot of different factors that could make this season special.

    Then again a couple of injuries and we win 7 games, so you never know. In 1998 if Vinny goes down in the preseason the Jets stick with Foley and go 7-9...
     
  7. statjeff22

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  8. Italian Seafood

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    We had to get married pretty quick and the season was coming, so we picked the week of an away game since we have tickets. Jets lost at New England.
     
  9. PutJerrichoIn

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    Yeah, we really lucked out with health last year. I think we will be a better team this year than we were last year, but due to the tougher schedule and other factors could end up with a worse record. To tell you the truth, I'd be ok with that if we showed significant progress, as I feel it would set us up for a major run the following season
     
  10. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    It happens, but not very often. In the 10 years from 1996-2005, 42 times a team had a below .500 record and then won at least four more games the following year (as the Jets did in going from 4-12 to 10-6). Only 9 times (21%) did the team then follow that up with a better record the next year, with 7 corresponding to at least 11 wins the third year (what I would consider being a legitimate SB contender). The average record in the third year is almost two wins fewer than in the second year. It gets even worse when you look at the bigger jumps; for example, if you only look at teams that won at least five more games the second year, only 3 of 24 (12.5%) had a better record the third year (the 1998 Jets, 2003 Panthers, and 2006 Bears), and the average record is more than 2 1/2 wins worse in the third year.

    This is exactly what you would expect statistically. For a team to have a dramatic increase in its level of success (particularly coming from a relatively poor performance level), it is likely to have had some luck (or random fluctuation, if you prefer) go its way, and randomness doesn't carry over to the next season (things like a potentially more difficult schedule only exacerbate this, but are not the primary cause of it). It's called regression to the mean, and it occurs whenever you have a random process. Based on history, the most reasonable prediction for the Jets' record in 2007 would be around 8-8, I'm afraid.
     
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    My viewing schedule
    Green - TV Bold - Sopcast
    Sep 9 New England 1:00pm
    Sep 16 @Baltimore 4:15pm

    Sep 23 Miami 1:00pm
    Sep 30 @Buffalo 1:00pm
    Oct 7 @N.Y. Giants 1:00pm
    Oct 14 Philadelphia 1:00pm
    Oct 21 @Cincinnati 4:05pm
    Oct 28 Buffalo 4:05pm

    Nov 4 Washington 1:00pm
    Nov 18 Pittsburgh 1:00pm
    Nov 22 @Dallas 4:15pm
    Dec 2 @Miami 1:00pm
    Dec 9 Cleveland 4:15pm
    Dec 16 @New England 1:00pm
    Dec 23 @Tennessee 4:15pm
    Dec 30 Kansas City 8:15pm


    11 on TV, 5 on Sopcast pending flex schedule.
     
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    The overall schedule looks tough, but after the bye week its gets a little easier.
     
  13. NDmick

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    Your right. If you look at the past 5 years, the inconsistency of the success of the Jets is prevalent. They haven't posted consecutive 10 win seasons in a long time. But a change is gonna come.
     
  14. NDmick

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    we should clean up after the bye week. That stretch will be all about making the playoffs.
     
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    Titans stadium is less than 2 hours from my front door. 2 years in a row!!!! Love the away schedule, Cincy is only 3 hours away.
     
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    That schedule does look very tough...

    I see the 2 games i'm attending...December 2nd in Miami then December 30th hosting KC...
     
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    We have been very consistent when healthy, our only 2 poor seasons('03, '05) have come when we have had major injuries so as long as we are healthy(most importantly Chad) we'll be very good.
     
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    Thats a pretty fair statistical analysis, except you left out one fact.

    You have to throw out the 05 season as an aberration, because you lost two starting caliber qb's in the same game, and played out a long string with the 3rd string qb.
     
  19. Br4d

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    Very good analysis. I agree that the odds on the Jets winning 12 games are very low. I just threw that out as what I think could happen if everything broke just right for them, as it did in 1998.

    I see the Jets realistically as a 7 to 11 win team with probably an equal chance of hitting each of the win numbers in that skein. I recognize that this is an optimistic projection but I think the coaching of Mangini last year lends itself to somewhat optimistic projections.
     
  20. Jets81

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    Thats why this schedule is so interesting. We're playing a lot of good football teams this season, and barring injury we'll find out just how good we are. I think this schedule is a good measuring stick of what this team will need to do too be a true contender. If we're going by trends Penny will get injured and we'll be awful this season. Hoping that we buck that trend though.
     

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